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Re: Severance

#81

Can someone make an AI agent to target automating tasks of upper management already so they feel the pain as well? You don’t need to even replace them outright, just make your agent so effective that [big tech company] requires fewer VPs and GMs etc. Modern frontier LLMs are incredibly good at all types of knowledge work - this should be possible with enough elbow grease

I feel like thats impossible - in the end the reason we have those useless roles is to have someone to shift the blame to

Re: Severance

#82
post #39

Severance is a truly amazing tv show

From the first lines I’ve thought the post was set in the series (probably because of the name Mark), but apparently there’s no connection here. (Though thinking about it... severed people do play a similar role in Severance as LLMs do in our world, don’t they?)

> Though thinking about it... severed people do play a similar role in Severance as LLMs do in our world, don’t they?

What?

Re: Severance

#83
post #81

Can someone make an AI agent to target automating tasks of upper management already so they feel the pain as well? You don’t need to even replace them outright, just make your agent so effective that [big tech company] requires fewer VPs and GMs etc. Modern frontier LLMs are incredibly good at all types of knowledge work - this should be possible with enough elbow grease

I feel like thats impossible - in the end the reason we have those useless roles is to have someone to shift the blame to

Blaming an AI model that can't even remember what it did is even easier than blaming a person.

Re: Severance

#84
post #68

I've been in a few meetings like this. In all cases it was because they, as business leaders, were not able to run a profitable company. That's the most irritating part.

Why that part is most irritating? This is very hard job as evidenced by huge percentage of failing companies.

Re: Severance

#85
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like thats impossible - in the end the reason we have those useless roles is to have someone to shift the blame to

Blaming an AI model that can't even remember what it did is even easier than blaming a person.

Computers and AIs can't be held responsible.

Re: Severance

#86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the first lines I’ve thought the post was set in the series (probably because of the name Mark), but apparently there’s no connection here. (Though thinking about it... severed people do play a similar role in Severance as LLMs do in our world, don’t they?)

> Though thinking about it... severed people do play a similar role in Severance as LLMs do in our world, don’t they? … What?

In case you haven’t seen Severance, here’s the premise: “severed” people in the series have their mind split in two personas basically, with separate memories and personality traits. The work persona, an “innie”, is then tasked with a dull job, while the “outie” gets the salary for it. https://www.severance.wiki/severance_procedure

In reality, we’re tasking the LLMs with dull work, and use their output for our benefit. It’s a stretch, yeah.

Re: Severance

#87
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the first lines I’ve thought the post was set in the series (probably because of the name Mark), but apparently there’s no connection here. (Though thinking about it... severed people do play a similar role in Severance as LLMs do in our world, don’t they?)

I discovered the show recently and thought that was a part of the point, but apparently the show's development long predates LLMs!

Looked it up – the pilot script is from 2015, wow! (“Attention is All you Need”, the paper GPT-1 was based upon, is from 2017.)

Re: Severance

#88
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blaming an AI model that can't even remember what it did is even easier than blaming a person.

Computers and AIs can't be held responsible.

Yall are missing my point - you don’t gotta replace the upper management - they will continue to hold the responsibility for outcomes and problems like they do today.

There will just be like 75% fewer of those individuals because they all can do so much more per head

Re: Severance

#89

I know this is a joke, but this is why my coworkers and I were muted during the meeting we were laid off. I received a meeting invite the night before for 9am with two HR people and some middle manager above me that I never met. It was obvious what the meeting was going to be.

Sorry that you got laid off, it sucks. Hope you are doing better now!

Re: Severance

#90
post #81

Can someone make an AI agent to target automating tasks of upper management already so they feel the pain as well? You don’t need to even replace them outright, just make your agent so effective that [big tech company] requires fewer VPs and GMs etc. Modern frontier LLMs are incredibly good at all types of knowledge work - this should be possible with enough elbow grease

I feel like thats impossible - in the end the reason we have those useless roles is to have someone to shift the blame to

I've seen too many situations where upper management somehow pins a situation on someone. They also play a part in layoffs. So, I'm not sure shifting the blame to upper management is happening.
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