The "solution" is to shoot CGNAT and to finally force the ISPs to adopt IPv6 so everybody can drop the addresses of a detected residential proxy into a ban list. Continuing to allow CGNAT is what allows the residential proxies to hide because it tumbles the IP identity of bad actors with normal people.
Residential Proxies Are a National Security Threat
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Re: Residential Proxies Are a National Security Threat
#82My personal opinion is they're not hard to detect at all. Latency is a huge giveaway, If the client can't respond in a time you'd expect a client to be able to based on its geographic location, that's a pretty big tell they're using proxies. In fact, if you did latency sensitive stuff, you'd likely find out whether you wanted to or not.
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would if there was an easy way to make a cut of the revenue of its usage or if I got to use other people's home connections.
Fair enough. Maybe I just have trust issues. Well earned trust issues.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Disagree fairly strongly. IP addresses known to be malicious are unequal and should be treated as such. Just because the idea of net neutrality exists doesn't mean it's true. I'm sure there's a specific context for it, and 'security' is not that context. It was about data/packet prioritisation wasn't it? Unrelated to security.
Yeah, mail server IP reputation is a good example. I wouldn't want to be flooded by emails from spammy mailservers IPs and I'm glad that my provider de-priortizes them.
Trying to restrict things to end-users is the total opposite of that. The common addresses everybody gets automatically are the thing you're trying to allow. Address reputation is pointless because residential customers get dynamic IPs and the reputation you're trying to record for some IP address can get swapped with a different customer at any time.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, mail server IP reputation is a good example. I wouldn't want to be flooded by emails from spammy mailservers IPs and I'm glad that my provider de-priortizes them.
The reason that works for mail servers is that they first require the IP address to have a valid reverse DNS entry, which is not just compromising a random machine with a random IP address but having administrative control over that IP block, which basically limits you to data centers and business internet providers, and then blocks IP addresses that send spam, i.e. that are owned by providers who give reverse DNS en…
It also feels like a description of the perfect camouflage to facilitate doing bad things: "don't block them because you might block an innocent bystander". Putting innocent bystanders in harms way sounds like someone else is the bad guy, not the person doing the blocking.
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#86No, your paranoia-outage is the true "national security threat" - a threat to freedom. Stop fanning the flames and calling for more government intervention.
After decades of watching people use these three words, I've come to the conclusion that 'national security threat' is a right-wing dog-whistle for 'we have no actual proof, but we dislike it, so let's ban it'. They are basically 'won't someone please think of the children?', but with higher stakes.
Re: Residential Proxies Are a National Security Threat
#87The "solution" is to shoot CGNAT and to finally force the ISPs to adopt IPv6 so everybody can drop the addresses of a detected residential proxy into a ban list. Continuing to allow CGNAT is what allows the residential proxies to hide because it tumbles the IP identity of bad actors with normal people.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Haha no they dont, ive used brightdata and all you need is a credit card and you’re good to go It is shady AF.
Actually they have several different products based on IP type and quality. The credit-card only access you're talking about is for shared and flagged residential proxies. ISPs legally sell them to businesses and they can work for some use cases, but you need a video call and KYC to get access to a high quality IP pool, such as real mobile IPs they source from p2p services like VPNs.
> you need a video call and KYC to get access to a high quality IP pool
They need to know who to blame (cough come after cough) if their top-shelf stock gets tainted by some script kiddie.
Re: Residential Proxies Are a National Security Threat
#89lets just hope some day there will be enough threats for nations to crumble