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The whole premise of checking for human writing is daft

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Re: The whole premise of checking for human writing is daft

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guarantee you that people are using AI to write posts here. I do think that there is a gate against poorly written comments.

This is probably true in the sense that it's also probably true that people are, at the margins, successfully manipulating votes, but it's part of the premise of the site that the moderators are working to counter that. And, like vote rigging, it's a cat-and-mouse game, so you're never going to get a wholly satisfying explanation of how they've decisively resolved the problem. Like a lot of problems in security and a…

Totally.

It also brings into focus what is being moderated for. It does seem like the most effective solutions are just to make sure the commentors are human.

Re: The whole premise of checking for human writing is daft

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Just send me the prompt if you’re going to write with AI. No point in trying to convince me it’s great, the marginal cost for me to re-run the prompt is zero, just send the prompt - it’s like unzipping a file before you send it to me, it doesn’t help, it just decreases information density.

Right, some people are really lazy, for sure.

But meanwhile, there's also examples like this one:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49010345 (Terence Tao using ChatGPT to do maths)

Do your objections apply there? And/Or how would you like that presented to you?

Re: The whole premise of checking for human writing is daft

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Low grade engagement bait that reads like a mediocre attempt at whitewashing slop. If the author's premise holds then we're saying that there's no daylight between the works of an individual who has taken a literal lifetime to hone a skillset and any random dilletante armed with the appropriate AI tools.

That's not what the author is saying at all. You are presuming that AI is capable of generating original thoughts. The author's point is that original thought is what matters. If a skilled writer with decades of experience can generate low effort content just as well as someone using an LLM. Your use of the word "dilettante" is elitist and says that only certain people should be allowed to express themselves.

I understand the author's claims that ideas matter and that is a major part of what I'm sneering at. Ideas grow on trees and they're worthless 100% of the time there aren't skilled and motivated individuals behind them pushing. The arts are and should be capital E elitist for all of the same reasons my kid's refrigerator art isn't hanging in the Louvre next to the Mona Lisa. Nobody's stopping you or anyone from grabbing some art supplies and expressing yourself to your heart's content, but unless you put the time in you aren't going to be on a level with Rembrant regardless of what toolset you use to try to paper over the gaps in your skillset.
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