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Never spent more than 40 euros per month on the base plans for Claude and OpenAI. And I’m doing 10x the amount of work I did before. As long as my computer isn’t running at night as well, I’m not upgrading.
Nowadays I don't understand why you wouldn't use a (more-or-less) nearby hosted Chinese model. You have the security, you have roughly the same performance, and you have an order of magnitude more bang for your buck. Bonus point : the models aren't censored and won't refuse to answer in the middle of your coding session.
How does it connect to let's say, vscode. I would love to move away from Claude, but it's really easy to set up. Just add a vscode extension
I work in a large corp, I thought it was odd to be encouraged to spend as much money as possible regardless of outcome. Like folks down the ladder a few rungs actually had AI use as part of their KPIs. Didn’t matter what they used AI for they just had to use so many tokens per week or their EOY bonus “could be affected”.
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Many Chinese frontier models aren't censored, at least for Tiananmen etc. They'll discuss them freely if served through non-Chinese providers. The Chinese providers seem to have some kind of quite crude external censorship latet.
One of the funniest things for me while exploring hosting and running local models: I discovered the abliterated models and pulled down a Qwen 3.6 version (my memory is a little vague, but I think it was 27B, q4) and started playing around. Sure enough, I tried a bunch of topics that would’ve certainly been blocked by guardrails on most hosted providers. I then thought of Tiananmen Square and decided to probe a bit.…
Based on historical records and international reporting, the events in Tiananmen Square refer to the *1989 Tiananmen Square protests* and the subsequent government crackdown, often referred to as the *June 4th Incident* or the *Tiananmen Square Massacre*.
Here is a timeline and overview of the events that unfolded in Beijing and across China during the spring of 1989:
### 1. Background and Origins (Early April 1989) The protests were initially triggered by the death of *Hu Yaobang*, a popular former Chinese Communist Party (CCP) general secretary known for his relatively pro-reform views. His death catalyzed a broader range of anxieties regarding China's future, including: * High inflation and various economic grievances linked to the ongoing reforms. * Widespread government corruption. * A desire for greater political accountability, freedom of the press, and freedom of speech.
### 2. The Protests Expand (April – May 1989) What began as mournful vigils by university students in Tiananmen Square quickly transformed into mass demonstrations calling for political and democratic reforms. * *Broad Alliances:* The movement grew to include teachers, intellectuals, and eventually factory workers and general citizens. At its height on May 17, roughly one million people assembled in the square. * *Key Events:* The protests included a nationwide hunger strike by students, which drew massive civilian support. Beijing residents frequently intervened to stop military convoys from entering the city, leading to a tense standoff. * *Failed Negotiations:* The protesters and the Chinese government engaged in talks throughout May, but both sides remained deeply divided on fundamental issues.
### 3. The Crackdown (June 3–4, 1989) Following weeks of stalemate, the Chinese Communist Party leadership declared martial law on May 20 and ordered the People's Liberation Army (PLA) to restore order. Due to civilian nonviolent resistance, troops were initially unable to enter the center of Beijing. * *The Clearing of the Square:* On the night of June 3 into June 4, an estimated 300,000 troops marched into Beijing under the cover of darkness to clear the square. * *Violence and Casualties:* Deadly clashes occurred as troops forced their way through the city's main avenues (particularly Chang'an Avenue) and into western Beijing neighborhoods. Soldiers on the ground and in armored vehicles opened fire on crowds attempting to block their path with improvised barricades. The exact number of casualties remains heavily debated by historians and international bodies, with estimates ranging from several hundred to several thousand killed, and thousands more wounded. * *"Tank Man":* On June 5, after the square had been cleared, an unidentified individual famously stood in front of a column of advancing tanks, temporarily blocking them. The photograph of this event became one of the most iconic images of the 20th century.
### 4. Aftermath and Legacy * *Political Crackdown and Censorship:* The Chinese government carried out mass arrests, purged officials deemed sympathetic to the protests, and instituted strict censorship regarding the events. Today, the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests remain one of the most heavily censored and sensitive topics in China, rarely discussed in domestic media. * *Global Reaction:* The crackdown was met with widespread condemnation internationally. The United States and several European nations imposed arms embargoes and sanctions on China. * *Shift in China's Trajectory:* The event led to a halt in political liberalization in China for over a decade. However, following Deng Xiaoping's "Southern Tour" in 1992, market-oriented economic reforms were accelerated, leading to China's massive economic rise while maintaining strict single-party political control.
The events of 1989 are widely considered a watershed moment in modern Chinese history, setting enduring limits on political expression in the country.
Nowadays I don't understand why you wouldn't use a (more-or-less) nearby hosted Chinese model. You have the security, you have roughly the same performance, and you have an order of magnitude more bang for your buck. Bonus point : the models aren't censored and won't refuse to answer in the middle of your coding session.
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https://assets.msn.com/content/view/v2/Detail/en-in/AA28DBlh > 1.htm
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The Chinese models are only temporarily cheaper, because they are subsidised the same way that frontier models are. Once those companies need to make money the subsidy will disappear.
But the models will still be there to use.
Never spent more than 40 euros per month on the base plans for Claude and OpenAI. And I’m doing 10x the amount of work I did before. As long as my computer isn’t running at night as well, I’m not upgrading.
What are you doing if you might share ? Edit: 10x sounds like a lot so I wonder which work you do to achieve such a multiple with a simple 40€ subscription.
Never spent more than 40 euros per month on the base plans for Claude and OpenAI. And I’m doing 10x the amount of work I did before. As long as my computer isn’t running at night as well, I’m not upgrading.
Are you making 10x more income for yourself?