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"Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

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Re: "Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

#81

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Yes, but Parrots don't mimic the stages of learning speech development like children do. They just memorize a phrase. These SOTA LLMs aren't trying to mimic existing children's drawings, but interestingly they're following somewhat similar progression that human children do as they develop.

They don’t develop. We should stop anthropomorphizing LLMs. AI labs are improving the ML techniques used to build better models; it’s a big difference.

Both statements are true without contradiction.

A specific model develops as it passes through training.

AI labs change the architecture between models to allow them to surpass the previous models' best scores.

It's also going to keep being a hard sell to say "stop anthropomorphizing LLMs" when the models anthropomorphise themselves.

But besides that: Yeah, sure, they're not human, they're a cargo-cult mimicry of by and of minds that popped out of evolution doing gradient decent on intergenerational survivability. So what? Still interesting when the result of such cargo-culting incidentally echoes what our natural-selection-not-engineered moist electrochemistry happens to do.

Re: "Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

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Now add Deepseek, GLM and Kimi :-)

I just tried with Deepseek and got this for the Mona Lisa .-""-. / \ | _ _ | | (o)(o) | \ /\ / | -- | | \/ | | | / -- \ / / \ \ / / \ \ (__/ \__) It might not have been the most scientific test

Looks more like Munch's The Scream to me.

Re: "Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

#83
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Parrots can also sound extremely human, but it’s only mimicry. How do we know the difference?

What's your parrot's take on the Jacobian Conjecture?

My parrot doesn't have a take, but it sure can repeat one it heard on Reddit.

Re: "Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

#84

As I looked through the images I was unimpressed entirely, at first. But, then I started thinking, these look a little... "childish" to me. Childish as in... A newish artist who is drawing a concept rather than light / forms (Which is something artists typically do as they understand drawing more and more). The rose in the vase specifically - some models understood that there was supposed to be shading, reflections,…

I call this "symbol drawing". Beginning artists do this. They think "This is a head, a head is round. This is where eyes go, eyes are shaped like this", and the whole thing ends up being a collage of symbols vs a representation of the space and experience of viewing a face. When I used to be OK at drawing, it was because I forced myself to use touch instead of sight to compose images. So weird to explain, but I'd feel the 3d to get the lighting and such better.

A lot of art that someone smarter than me told me to appreciate seems to follow the pattern of hitting the space and/or experience while minimizing the use of symbols. Impressionistic paintings esp avoid symbols IMHO, while bizzaro picassos abuse symbols outright and still hit the experience they are going for.

Re: "Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

#85

As I looked through the images I was unimpressed entirely, at first. But, then I started thinking, these look a little... "childish" to me. Childish as in... A newish artist who is drawing a concept rather than light / forms (Which is something artists typically do as they understand drawing more and more). The rose in the vase specifically - some models understood that there was supposed to be shading, reflections,…

I took the same prompts to Gemini and was stunned by the results. The are completely different from the images shown in the article (and genuinely good art pieces that were generated).

Re: "Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

#86

As I looked through the images I was unimpressed entirely, at first. But, then I started thinking, these look a little... "childish" to me. Childish as in... A newish artist who is drawing a concept rather than light / forms (Which is something artists typically do as they understand drawing more and more). The rose in the vase specifically - some models understood that there was supposed to be shading, reflections,…

I took the same prompts to Gemini and was stunned by the results. The are completely different from the images shown in the article (and genuinely good art pieces that were generated).

Were you using the Gemini image generator though? The article is about using LLMs to do drawing via tool calls.

Re: "Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

#87
A few months back, we had a use case to create some SVGs and added this skill: https://github.com/upbrew-tech/svg-creator-skill

I think using this skill, Claude drew it better than the examples given. https://claude.ai/share/bc0867dc-034f-4865-bb71-acb83bfa36a1

Re: "Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

#88
post #76
post #20

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The razor-wire at the bottom for Starry Night was clever, and very Grok. Really shows its military spirit. Edit: I just don't see the point of redacting the Mona Lisa

Redacting? Is that not just the model using the smudge tool it was given.

Is this not someone being near infinitely obtuse?

HN, the only environment in the world where people will scientifically falsify a joke.

Re: "Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

#89
A year or so ago I was trying to get llms to make pixel art by asking them to create a 2d array of color codes. I'm no prompt guru but they all failed at anything beyond a basic shape. I tried at many resolutions from 16x16, 32x32, 64x64, and maybe a little larger but basically only then quit small ones were even recognizeable.

Re: "Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

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post #89

A year or so ago I was trying to get llms to make pixel art by asking them to create a 2d array of color codes. I'm no prompt guru but they all failed at anything beyond a basic shape. I tried at many resolutions from 16x16, 32x32, 64x64, and maybe a little larger but basically only then quit small ones were even recognizeable.

There’s a related benchmark along these lines that uses an LLM with a discrete “instructive graphic language” to get models to generate Minecraft voxel structures with varying degrees of success.

https://github.com/Ammaar-Alam/minebench

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