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Perforce charges $500 for training training videos.. and it's AI narrated

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Re: Perforce charges $500 for training training videos.. and it's AI narrated

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If it's all ai generated, it's only fair if I use STT to convert it and have an LLM summarise it back to what might have been the original bullet points used to make the training video. Or just send me the prompt.

It's TTS. That doesn't mean the text wasn't written by a human.

Oh suddenly AI isn't fair.

Re: Perforce charges $500 for training training videos.. and it's AI narrated

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If you are using Perforce as an enterprise system, $500 is peanuts. Perforce can get pricey. We used to be a Perforce shop, in my last job. However, I continue to be amazed that Perforce survived Git. I assume its ability to handle large binaries has been what saved it. I seem to remember an HN posting, some time ago, about a new system, aimed at creatives, and that handles big binaries. It looked fairly good, but no…

Im amazed git survived at all. Such a mess of complexity and exotic jargon to abstract away something that should be inherently simple. After 20 years I can use it with ease thanks to llms.

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Re: Perforce charges $500 for training training videos.. and it's AI narrated

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Ok but how should the improved git replacement actually be? Feels to me you're just saying things.

Obviously you feel that way, thats my entire point. Try alternatives, they already exist.

Can you name one free alternative that already exists and is better?

Re: Perforce charges $500 for training training videos.. and it's AI narrated

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Obviously you feel that way, thats my entire point. Try alternatives, they already exist.

Can you name one free alternative that already exists and is better?

Mercurial.

Pijul.

Darcs.

and.. Perforce is free for 5 users too. ;)

Re: Perforce charges $500 for training training videos.. and it's AI narrated

#85
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It's TTS. That doesn't mean the text wasn't written by a human.

Oh suddenly AI isn't fair.

Uh... Huh? Mate, nobody cares if you want an AI to feed you regurgitated summaries.

Re: Perforce charges $500 for training training videos.. and it's AI narrated

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Im amazed git survived at all. Such a mess of complexity and exotic jargon to abstract away something that should be inherently simple. After 20 years I can use it with ease thanks to llms.

I love that comments like these incept million tech bro look-at-my-clout responses for having learned some subset of the magic incantations to make git barely usable... As if you get an award for mental heuristics to put up with a poorly architected product with leaky abstraction all over. If you mentions reflogs, i'm yelling bingo. Bonus points: You have 3 new commits and in one there is a change in file.stupid, how…

One: git checkout -- file.stupid

Re: Perforce charges $500 for training training videos.. and it's AI narrated

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git lfs?

From what I understand (I don't use it, myself, so this is hearsay), Git LFS is unsuitable for the kinds of assets used by creative studios.

From what I understand, it's a tooling problem and not a technical issue with Git. By default Git only supports text diffs but that is not a fundamental constraint of the architecture. Actually Git deals with binary blobs and the diffs are a UI porcelain layer. Binary diffs could be added on top with just a SMOP

Re: Perforce charges $500 for training training videos.. and it's AI narrated

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The problem being? If the content is good enough and the narration fine (it took you a while to even notice), why does it matter? > Like is it really easier to generate a video with fake AI narration than just narrating it yourself? Yes? Also, they can iterate quicker (don't have to rerecord if content changes).

I would argue it's fraudulent. There's loads of text to speech synthesizers that work just fine but sound robotic. The huge technological advancement of tihs technology is that it 'sounds human', even if it isn't.

LLMs are great, but we should stop bundling fake image generation and fake voice generation with it and calling it AI.

If you truly believe that there's no problem, and that it's fine, then use a TTS technology that didn't spend a gigajillion dollars on trying to sound like it's not what it actually is.

It's like selling soy pellets with synthetic meat flavour and making it look like meat and selling it in butcher shops and not clarifying that it's not actually meat.

On the one hand, I personally believe that meat is better, yes, but on the other hand, that's not what I am going to discuss and it's a disservice to argue about how meat is better, all you need to know is that if you try to pull this off, you will be indistinguishable from unethical fraudsters. Not saying you or Perforce are one at this point, we are all dazzled and confused by the technology, but down the line, when regulations settle in, there will be no gray area, do not do this shit if you care about your reputation. Only do this shit if you want to make quick bucks during during the boom and before the bust.

Re: Perforce charges $500 for training training videos.. and it's AI narrated

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> Virtually 100% of non-indie devs use Perforce. Not really. There are better products out there. When I worked at Triple-A studio, we used Alienbrain, which is specifically tailored for huge binary versioning with previews and stuff. We had terabytes of assets, and Alienbrain handled it well, including seamless integration into pipelines - something a stock git or Perforce would never achieve.

Blizzard? I've never heard of Alienbrain used elsewhere.

Not Blizzard. A French game developer and publisher that has been defunct for many years now. But even then, I remember talking to colleagues from other studios and many used Alienbrain - primarily for art assets. We used SVN and later git/mercurial for code.

Since Alienbrain was quite popular back then, I assume they are still around now. Given that git still has no out-of-the-box facilities to handle large binaries and asset previews conveniently.

Re: Perforce charges $500 for training training videos.. and it's AI narrated

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Can you name one free alternative that already exists and is better?

Mercurial. Pijul. Darcs. and.. Perforce is free for 5 users too. ;)

> Perforce is free for 5 users too. ;)

Free as in freedom…

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