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CO2 overload, detected in human blood, suggests toxic atmosphere within 50 years

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> "For example" is AI, then your ability to reason is highly compromised. Thanks for the insult, my friend. Earlier this week I had GPT-5.5 help me complete some areas in three different patent docs that were just filed, and I had to remove "for example" from its output dozens of times when I was reviewing it for accuracy.

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> Do they sell home CO2 scrubbers? They're called houseplants.

Yes, but technically, several hundred houseplants would be required to offset the indoor carbon dioxide to lower it sufficiently. This has been studied.

some people really love houseplants and go to long efforts to make them comfortable. although ive never heard of a plant hoarder, i can imagine a FD inspector raising eyebrows at a plant hoarding, esp. the fertilizers.

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> Do they sell home CO2 scrubbers? They're called houseplants.

Yes, but technically, several hundred houseplants would be required to offset the indoor carbon dioxide to lower it sufficiently. This has been studied.

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One interesting thing in the paper that I didn't think of, is that our breathing mechanism is tied to CO2 levels. And therefore, higher CO2 levels (not atmospheric high, but artificially high during studies), can trigger panic attacks and general stress. A slow suffocation hallucination, kind of. Even when there's still sufficient oxygen, your body doesn't "measure" oxygen! I didn't know that!

It's also the reason people pass out and die in high-nitrogen or helium environments. Your body can still exchange out CO2 (and O2 in really high concentrations) and you just carry on until you... Stop.

A couple of refrigeration engineers died near us at a poultry processing plant after it was found that the on-site liquid nitrogen tanks had a small leak. CCTV showed them just happily working in a room without ventilation and they just died. Was all very sad.

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> "For example" is AI, then your ability to reason is highly compromised. Thanks for the insult, my friend. Earlier this week I had GPT-5.5 help me complete some areas in three different patent docs that were just filed, and I had to remove "for example" from its output dozens of times when I was reviewing it for accuracy.

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> This should've been obvious to any educated person.

Sigh... it's just so tiresome to run into people like you. Have a good life, my dude.

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Complications of diabetes can lower serum bicarbonate, not increase it. In general, it is true that there are many causes of a rise in bicarbonate, but doesn't this only makes the situation more precarious?

> Whatbaoutism is not a valid excuse. It’s not “whataboutism”. It’s a basic control in a paper that takes population data and asserts a causal link between a complex, personal biological variable and a global phenomenon. There are probably dozens of factors that matter a lot more to individual blood gas levels than global average co2. At a minimum, I’d expect to see controls for obvious medical factors before taking…

Fair point. I can see how a global rise in antacid use could explain it more easily. If antacids are the culprit, I expect the rise in bicarbonate to eventually asymptote.

Still, we know that very high sustained carbon dioxide does risk respiratory acidosis and a rise in serum bicarbonate. The question then is whether a lower sustained rise also has an observed effect.

Fwiw, as per Figure 2A, thus far we see a linear increase in the data, with no sign of it being asymptotic.

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> This should've been obvious to any educated person. Sigh... it's just so tiresome to run into people like you. Have a good life, my dude.

For example, both AI and humans use semicolons. If you see a semicolon, are you suddenly going to claim it's AI? Where do you think a semicolon originates from if not from human writing?

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You won't understand until you get much older, your joints start to hurt, and your sleep becomes miserable. When you try collagen then in a sufficient amount, e.g. 15g/day, only then might you understand.

Collagen for osteoarthritis is well-supported by research. I was responding to the statement about connective tissues.

One doesn't have to wait for a full-blown osteoarthritis diagnosis to benefit from it. One can start at the first sign.

Also, sleep health is an independent consideration for which it benefits.

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One interesting thing in the paper that I didn't think of, is that our breathing mechanism is tied to CO2 levels. And therefore, higher CO2 levels (not atmospheric high, but artificially high during studies), can trigger panic attacks and general stress. A slow suffocation hallucination, kind of. Even when there's still sufficient oxygen, your body doesn't "measure" oxygen! I didn't know that!

It's a factor in "shallow water blackout" a fairly common death for experienced swimmers. Caused by hyperventilating prior to a long breath hold flushing too much CO2 out of your blood, so your sense of needing to breathe is suppressed relative to your need for oxygen.

This is the reason closed environments (e.g., space vehicles, submursibles, rebreathers) have CO2 scrubbers.
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