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Irish datacenters now guzzle 23% of the country's electricity

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Re: Irish datacenters now guzzle 23% of the country's electricity

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Isn't this a similar issue of doctors raised by taxpayers money doing hair transplant and cosmetic surgeries instead of working in much less profitable hospitals with sick people or European scientists and engineers risen by public education working in American tech companies or super rich people from all over the world buying all the homes in London which is valuable not because of its resources but because of the p…

What kind of plastic surgery are you looking to gatekeep?

Because I guarantee you the people who pointed out that plastic surgery was covered have ideas of what that should be.

Plastic surgery can include burn and emergency surgical scars (trauma surgeons are just trying to keep your insides in and your outsides out, and then they have to run to the next patient to do the same), and hair transplants can include head injuries or cancer surgeries in young people in addition to vain old men.

When we discuss things like this in political arenas, nuance goes out the window and you're contributing to condemning little girls to walk around with giant patches of missing hair and people to tolerate visible scars that will absolutely be used to illegally discriminate against them for jobs that would allow them to afford their own procedures.

Re: Irish datacenters now guzzle 23% of the country's electricity

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post #81
post #77

Isn't this a similar issue of doctors raised by taxpayers money doing hair transplant and cosmetic surgeries instead of working in much less profitable hospitals with sick people or European scientists and engineers risen by public education working in American tech companies or super rich people from all over the world buying all the homes in London which is valuable not because of its resources but because of the p…

What kind of plastic surgery are you looking to gatekeep? Because I guarantee you the people who pointed out that plastic surgery was covered have ideas of what that should be. Plastic surgery can include burn and emergency surgical scars (trauma surgeons are just trying to keep your insides in and your outsides out, and then they have to run to the next patient to do the same), and hair transplants can include head…

I think its obvious from the context what kind of plastic surgery, the vanity one.

Re: Irish datacenters now guzzle 23% of the country's electricity

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That is about 3% of California's total energy usage Or about 11,000 GWh which is about 4% of California which means without the theatrics: California has 4x more data centers than Ireland. California: ~810 watts per person. (278,000 GWh / 39.4 million people) Ireland: ~690 watts per person. (32,000 GWh / 5.3 million people) We have air conditioning and that may be why we use more POWAH

I'm actually quite surprised that California only has 4x as many data centers, with CA having more than 7x the population (not to mention being pivotal in the Information Age)

Re: Irish datacenters now guzzle 23% of the country's electricity

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post #77

Isn't this a similar issue of doctors raised by taxpayers money doing hair transplant and cosmetic surgeries instead of working in much less profitable hospitals with sick people or European scientists and engineers risen by public education working in American tech companies or super rich people from all over the world buying all the homes in London which is valuable not because of its resources but because of the p…

The common thread in your examples is the idea of entitlements.

Either entitlement to the doctors/engineers labor or a house one doesnt own.

I dont think externalities is the most useful model for thinking about this because it is easy to construct a more favorable hypothetical. That doesnt mean one is entiteled to it.

Re: Irish datacenters now guzzle 23% of the country's electricity

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even in the hypothetical that datacenters would double Ireland’s GDP what real positive impact would it have if they pay zero taxes?

Did you mean hypothesis?

I meant hypothetical, thanks for pointing it out.

Re: Irish datacenters now guzzle 23% of the country's electricity

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My electricity costs 34 cent per Kw/h and I can’t afford solar panels or a renovation to air to water heating while the government insists we shouldn’t use oil / coal anymore nor logs or turf to heat our homes edit: I live in Ireland

At 34 cents per kwh how can you afford to not get solar?

Re: Irish datacenters now guzzle 23% of the country's electricity

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Canada seems better positioned for datacenters since they can power them locally with a multitude of options and not impact the local grid.

I lived in Ontario for 18 years and found power to be quite expensive compared to the midwestern US state I lived in before and after. I believe this is due to the concentrated population centers needing to subsidize the transmission to the least populated areas, and would guess this would have an impact on energy costs for data centers in Canada. But again, my experience is (mostly) limited to SW Ontario, where ever…

The post above seems to point to Alberta as the best value prop.

Re: Irish datacenters now guzzle 23% of the country's electricity

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post #81
post #77

Isn't this a similar issue of doctors raised by taxpayers money doing hair transplant and cosmetic surgeries instead of working in much less profitable hospitals with sick people or European scientists and engineers risen by public education working in American tech companies or super rich people from all over the world buying all the homes in London which is valuable not because of its resources but because of the p…

What kind of plastic surgery are you looking to gatekeep? Because I guarantee you the people who pointed out that plastic surgery was covered have ideas of what that should be. Plastic surgery can include burn and emergency surgical scars (trauma surgeons are just trying to keep your insides in and your outsides out, and then they have to run to the next patient to do the same), and hair transplants can include head…

He's talking about highly educated doctors taking jobs in private clinics instead of working in public hospitals for less.

Re: Irish datacenters now guzzle 23% of the country's electricity

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post #82
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kind of plastic surgery are you looking to gatekeep? Because I guarantee you the people who pointed out that plastic surgery was covered have ideas of what that should be. Plastic surgery can include burn and emergency surgical scars (trauma surgeons are just trying to keep your insides in and your outsides out, and then they have to run to the next patient to do the same), and hair transplants can include head…

I think its obvious from the context what kind of plastic surgery, the vanity one.

I think it's obvious from 'all nuance is lost' that it does not matter, at all. You're inviting collateral damage, as I already said.

Re: Irish datacenters now guzzle 23% of the country's electricity

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They chose to add the word "guzzle". They could have just written "Irish datacenters now use 23% of the country's electricity". But they made the editorial decision to add in "guzzle". What's the word for this type of propaganda, where they add in some sort of adjective that wasn't needed, in order to prime the reader on how to think/feel, rather than just objectively reporting the facts? What are the odds that the c…

First time reading The Register, is it? Because I would expect no less from such a pillar of journalism as them.
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