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Re: A bug which affected only left handed users

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Post by tetrisgm »

ianburrell wrote: post #52
what wrote: post #49

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Can you elaborate on this “right handed bias”? I can’t think of anything other than a can opener where it might matter?

Anything that isn't symmetrical. Mice and keyboards. Circular saws. Tape measures. Box cutters. Folding knives. Garden tools. Those are just ones that impacted me recently. Some have lefty versions but there is less selection. I recently found a left-handed weeding sickle and it is the best thing. Most of them are just annoying. I can do most things with right hand but then have to switch hands instead of the natural…

The one that cracked me up when I realized: door knobs. The positioning, orientation, and how you relate to the door. Completely inverted

Re: A bug which affected only left handed users

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Post by MiddleEndian »

dwedge wrote: post #68
MiddleEndian wrote: post #34

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I agree that phones are too big. I refuse to switch to two-handed phone use. I used the Palm Phone PVG 100 with a 3.3" screen as long as I could, but software got too slow and battery-hungry, and my now-wife was annoyed when my phone would die halfway through our text based conversations lol. Used a chunky 3.5"er (Soyes S10Max) for awhile but it died after a year. Now I use the Motorola Razr 2025. 90% of the time I j…

I can't find it now but I'm sure I saw some people cutting samsungs in half to get something similar. The only one I could find was this: https://www.pcbway.com/project/shareproject/A_Modified_zFlip...

I lack the skills, time, and nerve to try it with my own phone lol (and wouldn't want a keyboard). As much as I miss the Palm Phone, this is an acceptable compromise.

Re: A bug which affected only left handed users

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Post by nickpeterson »

robin_reala wrote: post #19
recursive wrote: post #14

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I'm a man with typically sized hands. I can barely do anything one-handed on a phone. Phones are so big they basically require two-handed operation for me. Like you, I typically hold it in my left hand, so I can use my right hand to tap stuff.

There’s at least 3 of us still on iPhone 13 Minis, and I plan to keep it going until Apple caves and makes a sensibly sized phone again.

Another 13 mini user chiming in. I’m 6’3, and think it’s ridiculous how big phones are. It reminds me of the automobile and tv industry though, where you’re sort of forced into buying something obnoxious if you want to get the better features.

Re: A bug which affected only left handed users

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Post by naikrovek »

what wrote: post #49
naikrovek wrote: post #40

As a lefty, his tongue in cheek derision toward lefties still pisses me off genuinely. I’m old enough to have been smacked around by a teacher as a kid for writing with my left hand. Right-handed bias is EVERYWHERE. Everywhere. Right-handed people will never notice it until they look for it, and even then it’s hard to see. So yeah I am sure the ribbing is nothing more than “a sensible chuckle” for right-handed people…

Can you elaborate on this “right handed bias”? I can’t think of anything other than a can opener where it might matter?

it's all over the place. when you hold a pen or pencil in your right hand, any text is right-side up. put it in your left hand; the text is now upside down.

there are millions of little things like that. millions. right-handed people will never ever notice them. left-handed people can not avoid noticing them.

pens & pencils

notebooks.

IP phones.

headsets (they have the mic on the left so you can scratch your face with your right hand without bumping the microphone.)

monitors (controls are on the back, right-hand side)

keyboards

mice

AND THIS IS JUST THE THINGS THAT ARE PRESENT ON MY DESK RIGHT NOW.

badge readers are always on the right-hand side of a door.

power buttons are always on the right, even on remote controls.

etc., etc., etc.

everything that is asymmetrical in any way is biased for right-handed people around 99.99% of the time. I occasionally get something from China which has accidental bias for left, but those things also have no obvious thought to the usability of anything at all.

it is maddening seeing this all day every day everywhere you go. "you are not like us" is all I get out of it and it just chips away at me with a microscopic chisel.

Re: A bug which affected only left handed users

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Post by throw1234567891 »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #7
throw1234567891 wrote: post #5

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I get more useful and up-to-date info from LinkedIn than from here.

LinkedIn is this constant networking event where everyone is looking for their next opportunity. It just feels gross to participate in it. Especially now that the only thing people do is talk about AI or use AI to talk about AI on their behalf.

And here it’s a constant flex with limited ability to participate in a discussion due to non-transparent posting quotas.

Re: A bug which affected only left handed users

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Post by chopin »

not-kinsale-joe wrote: post #73
naikrovek wrote: post #40

As a lefty, his tongue in cheek derision toward lefties still pisses me off genuinely. I’m old enough to have been smacked around by a teacher as a kid for writing with my left hand. Right-handed bias is EVERYWHERE. Everywhere. Right-handed people will never notice it until they look for it, and even then it’s hard to see. So yeah I am sure the ribbing is nothing more than “a sensible chuckle” for right-handed people…

I am left handed and and it did not bother me at all. Probably because you seem to have faced discrimination and I never have.

You don't seem to use scissors.

Re: A bug which affected only left handed users

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Post by ianburrell »

voidUpdate wrote: post #65
ianburrell wrote: post #52

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Anything that isn't symmetrical. Mice and keyboards. Circular saws. Tape measures. Box cutters. Folding knives. Garden tools. Those are just ones that impacted me recently. Some have lefty versions but there is less selection. I recently found a left-handed weeding sickle and it is the best thing. Most of them are just annoying. I can do most things with right hand but then have to switch hands instead of the natural…

I've learnt to mouse and keyboard the right handed way because it would just be too much hassle to switch over every setup I'm presented with. It does make me atrocious at drawing with a mouse though

Same here. I realized that will never be good at precise games.

Re: A bug which affected only left handed users

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Post by Exoristos »

embedding-shape wrote: post #77
Exoristos wrote: post #39

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You can do it yourself[0]. 0. https://www.ifixit.com/products/iphone-13-mini-battery

Word of caution, it seems kind of difficult, I had Apple replace my iPhone 12 Mini and they broke the screen in the process (so got a free screen replacement too), so seems a lot harder than it used to be, think I did it myself back in the 3GS days last time and seems its way more brittle today.

I've replaced multiple iPhone batteries (just not this model), and the great thing about the iFixit kit is it comes with specialized tools you need and great instructions.

Re: A bug which affected only left handed users

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Post by embedding-shape »

Exoristos wrote: post #89
embedding-shape wrote: post #77

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Word of caution, it seems kind of difficult, I had Apple replace my iPhone 12 Mini and they broke the screen in the process (so got a free screen replacement too), so seems a lot harder than it used to be, think I did it myself back in the 3GS days last time and seems its way more brittle today.

I've replaced multiple iPhone batteries (just not this model), and the great thing about the iFixit kit is it comes with specialized tools you need and great instructions.

Indeed! And I bet Apple technicians have even better training, tools and reference documentation, despite that they broke my screen anyways! So I'll stick to my warning to ask people to be careful, seemingly really easy to break the displays in the process.
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