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Re: LineageOS Statistics

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Recently installed LineageOS on an old Samsung tablet I had laying around. The thing was barely usable with whatever the highest Android version was it was comparable with. Now it works wonderfully! Really happy with it. Privacy features aside, Lineage can do wonders to revive old hardware

Re: LineageOS Statistics

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> NB: Since I'm on GrapheneOS now I haven't looked back Not to suggest GrapheneOS has become the new "standard" given it currently only supports Pixels, but I hear a lot more about GrapheneOS as the custom Android build than LineageOS, so I wonder if a lot of people have moved there from LineageOS. The other reason for a decline in custom ROMs may just be that apps are becoming more and more locked down. Banking apps…

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Re: LineageOS Statistics

#83
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the LineageOS teams refuses to incorporate patches to support MicroG as a replacement for Google Services so anyone (including me) that wants to follow that path is required to use unofficial builds.

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ah good to know. still since im already on the microg builds I'll keep using that until this phone dies so I'm still skewing the statistics

Re: LineageOS Statistics

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post #3

Wow LineageOS really is a bazaar, and not a cathedral. * 74% of installs are unofficial builds, not ones released by LineageOS. * 2/3 of US installs are on non-phones (waydroid, nintendo switch, rpi, etc) * Most of the installs on actual phones are in China, Brazil and Vietnam * Less than 21% of installs are on versions that receive security updates, and less than 9% of installs are on the latest version (mostly beca…

Exactly why I stopped installing LineageOS on my phone.

While part of it was that I was no longer interested in tinkering with ROM and playing cat-and-mouse game with SafetyNet/root detection/whatever, the other part is that I cannot trust these ROMs, some of which come (or came) with their own bloatware. Those that have official builds are of course better, but the overall experience and security situation is still much worse than OEM ROM, despite all the junk there.

P.S. another issue is that I became sick of is devs using xda forum as the only communication channel, including bug reports, updates etc. GitHub has existed for over a decade, and the issue tracker/release system is usable, yet they choose the worst way to do software engineering.

Re: LineageOS Statistics

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> NB: Since I'm on GrapheneOS now I haven't looked back Not to suggest GrapheneOS has become the new "standard" given it currently only supports Pixels, but I hear a lot more about GrapheneOS as the custom Android build than LineageOS, so I wonder if a lot of people have moved there from LineageOS. The other reason for a decline in custom ROMs may just be that apps are becoming more and more locked down. Banking apps…

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Is this some kind of FUD?

Shady sponsors (if there is any) doesn't matter when transparency is in place. Want to reveal malicious intent? Provide a PoC.

Only hardware that supports bootloader relocking are Pixel devices. There are no others to consider development effort - plain simple. No, you can't use an unlocked device as a daily driver. Up to a minute out of your hands (or triggered reboot from public power outlet, due to outdated Lineage firmware) - and your bootloader is rewritten with one that collect your FDE secret and sends it to a remote server.

Opaque hardware? Which hardware are better and more transparent than Titan and upcoming OpenTitan? Bruteforce protection which considers current ambient temperature - what more do you need?

I can't say anything about VPN affiliation, but everything else is complete bollocks.

Re: LineageOS Statistics

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post #78
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Wow LineageOS really is a bazaar, and not a cathedral. * 74% of installs are unofficial builds, not ones released by LineageOS. * 2/3 of US installs are on non-phones (waydroid, nintendo switch, rpi, etc) * Most of the installs on actual phones are in China, Brazil and Vietnam * Less than 21% of installs are on versions that receive security updates, and less than 9% of installs are on the latest version (mostly beca…

> 74% of installs are unofficial builds, not ones released by LineageOS. Are these bot posting farms and click farms masquerading?

I've installed it plenty, and its always been on "unsupported" hardware.

There's a big world out there.

Re: LineageOS Statistics

#88
post #81

Recently installed LineageOS on an old Samsung tablet I had laying around. The thing was barely usable with whatever the highest Android version was it was comparable with. Now it works wonderfully! Really happy with it. Privacy features aside, Lineage can do wonders to revive old hardware

My Nokia T20 is getting to this point and I wish Lineage was an option. Sadly, I don't think it has enough of a footprint for anyone to bother with writing the firmware/drivers -- I wish I had the time to give it a serious try. Seeing this class of devices reduced to e-waste really bums me out. :(

Re: LineageOS Statistics

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> NB: Since I'm on GrapheneOS now I haven't looked back Not to suggest GrapheneOS has become the new "standard" given it currently only supports Pixels, but I hear a lot more about GrapheneOS as the custom Android build than LineageOS, so I wonder if a lot of people have moved there from LineageOS. The other reason for a decline in custom ROMs may just be that apps are becoming more and more locked down. Banking apps…

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> suspicious sponsors

GrapheneOS is entirely funded by donations. It doesn't accept strings attached sponsorships. We list companies sponsoring infrastructure for GrapheneOS on our website to encourage more companies to make donations and for transparency.

https://grapheneos.org/sponsors

Which of these companies do you claim is suspicious and what's the reasoning for that? Server sponsorships are how many Linux distributions including Alpine, Arch and Debian host their update mirrors and other infrastructure.

> force users into opaque hardware

Computer hardware and firmware is nearly universally closed source. The devices we currently support are among the most open including using Trusty OS for the TEE and secure core, OpenTitan as the basis for the secure element and littlekernel for the late stage boot chain on the main SoC.

GrapheneOS is coming to more devices but those devices need to meet our hardware security and requirements and provide the driver/firmware updates we need. We have a partnership with Motorola Mobility that's working towards new devices meeting our requirements with official GrapheneOS support.

> just the other day they were also promoting the usage of government sponsored VPNs

This is utter nonsense. Answering people's questions about how to use Tor on GrapheneOS is not promoting government sponsored VPNs. We don't even specifically promote Tor but rather explain how to use it. We also recommend people carefully consider using it to access the public internet via exit nodes since it makes people using it into targets and anyone can host an exit node.

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