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YC CEO says he ships 37K LoC AI code per day. A developer looked under the hood
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Re: YC CEO says he ships 37K LoC AI code per day. A developer looked under the hood
#82This is what happens when you give people tools that let them achieve an outcome, without necessarily giving them the judgement or expertise to know whether the outcome is any good. If you asked me to build a house, I could probably assemble something that would stand for a few months. Hopefully. It might even keep the rain out. But it might also fall on my head, because I do not know enough about building houses to…
“…without necessarily giving them the judgement or expertise to know whether the outcome is any good.”
Ahem…this man is A CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER how DARE you cast aspersions on his judgment abilities! /s
The biggest takeaway for me is “failing upward” is much easier in the 21st Century.
Re: YC CEO says he ships 37K LoC AI code per day. A developer looked under the hood
#83Garry Tan's point still stands: he never pretended to be building nice software. But his point was that he can now build AT ALL! Shipping a webpage at all is the firs step ; making it load under 7 Mo is just a refinement, an important one of course (who tf wants bloated webpages) but still only a refinement. Tan is right to be amazed and to be shipping.
His point is about the volume, and that to us (software engineers) it sounds like he actively just adding bloat, not putting out useful software.
Re: YC CEO says he ships 37K LoC AI code per day. A developer looked under the hood
#84Garry Tan's point still stands: he never pretended to be building nice software. But his point was that he can now build AT ALL! Shipping a webpage at all is the firs step ; making it load under 7 Mo is just a refinement, an important one of course (who tf wants bloated webpages) but still only a refinement. Tan is right to be amazed and to be shipping.
Has Garry produced any software that is actually useful to anybody? Cause that kinda needs to be be lowest we can set the bar, right?
Re: YC CEO says he ships 37K LoC AI code per day. A developer looked under the hood
#85Seems to be a frequently occurring issue, most (good) software engineers know that LOC basically means nothing, if anything, less LOC is a better goal over more LOC, if you absolutely have to have a goal. As soon as people/companies starts bragging about how many LOC they can ship, you need to start being very suspicious, mostly because they just admitted to not actually understand software engineering at all. Cursor…
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Re: YC CEO says he ships 37K LoC AI code per day. A developer looked under the hood
#86This is what happens when you give people tools that let them achieve an outcome, without necessarily giving them the judgement or expertise to know whether the outcome is any good. If you asked me to build a house, I could probably assemble something that would stand for a few months. Hopefully. It might even keep the rain out. But it might also fall on my head, because I do not know enough about building houses to…
AI feels to me like having access to someone who got a D in literally every single course offered at a university. If you don't know anything about the subject they are smarter than you. If you do know the subject its unsettling how bad they are. Basically the Gell-Mann effect: > The phenomenon of a person trusting newspapers for topics which that person is not knowledgeable about, despite recognizing the newspaper a…
It's more like giving an army of crack heads with a heap of motivation access to textbooks and the internet to do your bidding
Re: YC CEO says he ships 37K LoC AI code per day. A developer looked under the hood
#87Measuring success in LoC is so wrong… It's like bragging that you took 10,000 steps to reach the store by walking in circles when you could have taken 500 steps if you just walked straight. The end result is the same. AI has a tendency to generate more code than necessary. It keeps re-inventing things, and every time you ask it to add a new feature or fix something, it just keeps on piling the code. I now periodicall…
IOW, you're doing an insane amount of micromanagement with a most inexperienced beginner developer.
Re: YC CEO says he ships 37K LoC AI code per day. A developer looked under the hood
#88Article from April OP;
Some discussion then: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47633506
Re: YC CEO says he ships 37K LoC AI code per day. A developer looked under the hood
#89That's just sick. If I had to review 37k LoC per day, my brain would vaporize. But the point probably is that nobody ever looks at that code.
Re: YC CEO says he ships 37K LoC AI code per day. A developer looked under the hood
#90"found numerous examples of bloat and inefficiencies in Tan’s site code, and used a single (Anthropic) Claude session to review the files he downloaded from the website to confirm his observations" 1. I hope they never get hold of the code of MS Office or almost any other piece of real-world business software. 2. So anyone with claude access could arrive at the same conclusions ... and ask claude to fix it?
It's worse than anything in MS really.
Careful, MS is vibe-coding crapware now too.