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Verizon is about to break our Gizmo watches

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Re: Verizon is about to break our Gizmo watches

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So you blame the victim and also admit you haven't explored the author's use case. Very helpful

The victim is complaining that they were hurt. I seek to empower them to not be hurt further. What are you bringing to the table? Snide comments?

a clearer option is a tort, no?

Re: Verizon is about to break our Gizmo watches

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```The associate agreed with me that they should not deprecate the old app until the new app can handle this configuration. I asked them to raise this up the chain: they need to push back the deprecation date.``` There's no way a CSR has any power over this.

But they can, and do. escalate problems. It’s not like there’s a side entrance for people with problems that a CSR can’t solve.

Yes, they solve the problem that you called the company.

Re: Verizon is about to break our Gizmo watches

#83

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But they can, and do. escalate problems. It’s not like there’s a side entrance for people with problems that a CSR can’t solve.

Yes, they solve the problem that you called the company.

Yes, support agents never escalate anything, they are mendacious slaves.

Re: Verizon is about to break our Gizmo watches

#84

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The Apple Watch isn’t a better product? https://www.apple.com/apple-watch-for-your-kids/

Any Apple kit for your kids is completely useless if you yourself don't use Apple crap.

You literally can't set up am Apple watch for kids without a parent-owned iPhone. It's the kind of vendor lock in thst all other companies get immediately chastised for, but Apple always manages to get a pass. I hope they pay their marketing teams adequately for those amazing ways in which they twist public perceptions.

Re: Verizon is about to break our Gizmo watches

#86

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So you blame the victim and also admit you haven't explored the author's use case. Very helpful

The victim is complaining that they were hurt. I seek to empower them to not be hurt further. What are you bringing to the table? Snide comments?

I don't know how to fix the social contract that "the things you buy should work and not be rug-pulled" but I certainly refuse to normalize the idea that "the issue here" lies with the author and not Verizon

Re: Verizon is about to break our Gizmo watches

#87
post #53

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> various negative effects of the human body on radio signals I was under the impression radio waves couldn’t interact with biological matter in any meaningful way. Can you share more about this?

Matter of any kind interacts with radio wave on some level. You might be thinking of how radio waves in the bands and power used for cellular don't have a negative health impact. But they still 100% interact and the human body, being both dense and conductive, absorbs radio waves beautifully.

Of course they interact, but to my knowledge this interaction is not meaningful when discussing biological functions.

Re: Verizon is about to break our Gizmo watches

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The main way is that literally zero of these watches actually meet the standards that the cell networks require of a cell phone. Every single one of them has a carrier exemption or a lower standard to adhere to, because it turns out that putting a cell phone's RF package into a watch is super hard, both because of size and the various negative effects of the human body on radio signals. This affects cell phones too o…

A few years ago, I signed up for an Apple Watch eSIM plan (which is a special type of eSIM plan that Apple make cell carriers agree to offer as an add-on to a normal cell subscription for your iPhone, and there is no other way go get an eSIM for it). I then started regularly receiving phone calls (to my iPhone) intended for someone else. At first I thought it was a wrong number or an old number and kept telling them…

the Apple Watch eSIM has its own phone number, for some reason, but it's not one you're supposed to know about

Not a secret if you have AT&T. The watch and its phone number are listed right there in its own section on the bill.

Absurd nightmare situation.

Not unique to Apple Watches, or any other device.

I have a T-Mobile hotspot that was assigned a recycled phone number. It gets several text message receipts each day for someone's Venmo purchases.

Re: Verizon is about to break our Gizmo watches

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post #13

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The main way is that literally zero of these watches actually meet the standards that the cell networks require of a cell phone. Every single one of them has a carrier exemption or a lower standard to adhere to, because it turns out that putting a cell phone's RF package into a watch is super hard, both because of size and the various negative effects of the human body on radio signals. This affects cell phones too o…

> various negative effects of the human body on radio signals I was under the impression radio waves couldn’t interact with biological matter in any meaningful way. Can you share more about this?

I was under the impression radio waves couldn’t interact with biological matter in any meaningful way.

You don't have a microwave oven?

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