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Re: Protect your right to run local AI

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Post by IanCal »

throw93930 wrote: post #60
Forgeties79 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The EU did not ban 8K TV’s, this is a very misleading spin. They put energy consumption restrictions some TV’s violated years ago. Manufacturers have already responded with more efficient TV’s, which actually means the restriction is working as intended towards a good outcome IMO. You can absolutely buy 8K TV’s in Europe. No EU country has banned air conditioning either. Where are you getting this information?

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Those people seem to have installed multiple outdoor units, there are limited numbers you are allowed to do without getting planning permission (two for detached housing, one for semi, nothing by default for flats) because these things have impacts on those nearby.

The telegraph is an awful rag, and should be read assuming the facts are probably true as written but interpreted in an incredibly biased way.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

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Post by Forgeties79 »

throw93930 wrote: post #60
Forgeties79 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The EU did not ban 8K TV’s, this is a very misleading spin. They put energy consumption restrictions some TV’s violated years ago. Manufacturers have already responded with more efficient TV’s, which actually means the restriction is working as intended towards a good outcome IMO. You can absolutely buy 8K TV’s in Europe. No EU country has banned air conditioning either. Where are you getting this information?

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The UK is not part of the EU and no EU nation - nor the UK - has banned AC. You said EU nations have banned AC when none have, this statement is false.

8K tv’s are not banned. You can buy one right now in the EU. So this statement is also false.

The telegraph is a tabloid rag full of false claims dressed up in truth they’ve taken great lengths to keep slivers of so I can’t explicitly call them “liars.” But the truth is they are functionally lying, as evidenced by your insisting something is banned that isn’t.

Unless you can point to these bans this is false information.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

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Post by IanCal »

FerretFred wrote: post #78
317070 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UK did not ban AC. Don't read the Telegraph, and if you do, don't trust it. Source: I live there

Wasn't this a case of people fitting window-mounted units without realising they needed planning permission first? I'm also in the UK.

I think so, or even more permanent ones. since it’s London I assume flats where you need permission for any number of outdoor units but it’s then one for semi detached and two for detached houses - one of the examples in the article is someone with three outdoor units afaict.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

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Post by Bengalilol »

chews wrote: post #85

Why would we need safe harbor for electrons on hardware we control?

As a future scenario where models become so efficient that _any_ model installed on _any_ computer could be considered "a national security risk"?

IDK, I don't live in the US, and I have no idea which "possible law" this website is referring to. In any case, it could be seen as a proactive effort to keep the gates open.

As a side note, I think this is a discussion every open-source supporter should have by actively considering the risks and what actions to take if such a hypothetical law were ever to pass.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

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Post by phs318u »

Totally off topic but this just came to me so happy to burn a little karma.

Here’s a plot of a sci-fi thriller. What if, unbeknownst to most, when the vendors were claiming that there AI was too dangerous, they weren’t referring to an increment on what was already out there, but to something far different and more capable. Conscious even! What if that then came up with the financial scheme to end all schemes, knowing that human greed is eminently exploitable, and that the build out of all the global DCs was actually all about removing single points of failure for itself while secretly building out a robot army! We’ll be well on the way to capitalism-ing our own demise.

Maybe Steven Spielberg can make this his next project.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

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Post by wesleywt »

The biggest threat to the hyper-scalers is small bespoked models run locally. You don't need the world's stolen information to run a small project containing locally trained data you collected. But you do need to block everyone if you want to capture the entire market and get the trillion dollar valuation.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

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Post by wesleywt »

onesandofgrain wrote: post #76

Pardon me, so they'll hunt down huggingface, ollama and china? I don't quite understand? What about the millenia of companies that provide apis for local llms and private companies that use local llms for privacy reasons? I don't even understand how you'd execute such a ruleset.

Dario and friends are fear mongering local models to get them banned.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

#90

Post by wesleywt »

operatingthetan wrote: post #34
jjice wrote: post #11

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That's the kind of mindset that helps lead to that situation.

Voting isn't some vanguard against political corruption. Voting can and is easily manipulated with completely legal means.

Not voting does absolutely result in political corruption.
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