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Post by doodlesarefun » Fri, Jul 03, 2026, 9:34 AM UTC

numpad0 wrote: post #52

kg wrote: post #50

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A problem you'd probably run into here is that it would be rather difficult to prove that no real CSAM was involved in the process of making the somehow-okay fake CSAM. Image generation models require training sets, after all. Do the companies training these models have the necessary data and evidence to prove every individual in every training image was over 18? Is generating fake CSAM okay if you trained the model…

> like an adult who looks 'too young' having their freedoms curtailed because any photos or videos would Look Like CSAM - but I don't think they're common enough harms It is extremely common in some parts of the world. Age from visual appearance basically doesn't work inter-culturally, with or without AI, and ... there are people amassing something like 1/3 of the world that look like kids until they must retire from…

Post by shakna » Fri, Jul 03, 2026, 12:15 PM UTC

chrisjj wrote: post #82

xracy wrote: post #79

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What do you think my comment was responding to? Literally those are the words that I was responding to. Saying that the provenance of a naked image of myself is relevant to the fact that it's a naked image of _me_ and I don't have ownership over my own image is exactly the kind of lawyer-brained wording I was referring to when I made the comment about the mirror. "It's not a picture of you, it's a picture of a reflec…

> What do you think my comment was responding to? Your misunderstanding of "private data". This is not lawyered words. > Saying that the provenance of a naked image of myself It is not a naked image of yourself. An image of someone else's naked body does not become a reflection of an image of you just because your face is pasted on it. Object if you wish, but when it comes to privacy, the only possible breach is of t…

Post by nailer » Fri, Jul 03, 2026, 2:22 PM UTC

mingus88 wrote: post #21

andrewinardeer wrote: post #19

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https://www.npr.org/2026/01/16/nx-s1-5678965/elon-musks-x-to... - after weeks of mocking critics, X’s approach shifted only after investigations mounted https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5689660-xai-investigat... - musk “not aware” of any naked underage images, pushing back on concerns https://www.humanrightsresearch.org/post/a-new-form-of-gende... - musk downplays concerns and blames users and hackers

Post by nailer » Fri, Jul 03, 2026, 2:29 PM UTC

delichon wrote: post #5

> Grok AI generated large amounts of CSAM and nonconsensual intimate imagery Grok Imagine has been considerably locked down in terms of intimate imagery over the last few weeks. E.g. Harley Quinn used to be one of the easiest characters to manipulate, with or without any resemblance to Margot Robbie. No more. X still serves up explicit hardcore, and Imagine used to get at least in that neighborhood, but that has been…

Post by queenkjuul » Fri, Jul 03, 2026, 2:44 PM UTC

numpad0 wrote: post #52

kg wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A problem you'd probably run into here is that it would be rather difficult to prove that no real CSAM was involved in the process of making the somehow-okay fake CSAM. Image generation models require training sets, after all. Do the companies training these models have the necessary data and evidence to prove every individual in every training image was over 18? Is generating fake CSAM okay if you trained the model…

> like an adult who looks 'too young' having their freedoms curtailed because any photos or videos would Look Like CSAM - but I don't think they're common enough harms It is extremely common in some parts of the world. Age from visual appearance basically doesn't work inter-culturally, with or without AI, and ... there are people amassing something like 1/3 of the world that look like kids until they must retire from…