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Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand
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Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand
#82Nope, I just won't use whatever websites implement this.
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
If a web requires me to do this to access it, I simply refuse. A friend of mine recently tried to get a payment from an insurance policy. But the New York Life web site wouldn't work right. She ended up talking to someone on the phone eventually and they told her it's her fault, because Safari isn't supported. Only Chrome and Edge. Her choice was to install Chrome, or walk away from $35,000. You may "just refuse," bu…
Why can't normal people send companies to collections for refusing to pay debts?
They can. But you will lose a substantial percentage.
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#84Doesn't surprise me at all and seems like a good solution to the problem of human verification. It won't take long for AI to catch up to that, but this captcha method might hold for a couple of months. Not sure what problem everybody here is having with this. The alternative would be device certificate stuff (ala did Apple sign for this being a proper Apple device?). Having to shake your hand sounds a lot more privac…
> Are you guys seriously worried that Google is gonna steal your secret handshakes?
Do I really think Google will retain that information for "debugging purposes", and 2 or 10 or 20 years from decide to make a service that identifies me from my hand biometrics because it will make them more money than the class action will cost them? Yes.
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#85It is extremely disappointing to see Reclaim’s reporting whiff so badly on this. Yeah, they got the gist of the outrage, but they missed the real grift underneath. They slipped a massive loophole under the radar here and Reclaim misses it entirely: Google promised to delete the footage , but not the data derived from the footage. To use 23andme as an analogy, the company tended to dispose of old genetic sample kits a…
> This is a company whose business runs on gathering and monetizing personal data Seems like they covered your points just fine. They just did it succinctly and trusted the reader to understand the broader implications.
They don't trust the reader to 'understand the broader implications' in their other posts. For example:
https://reclaimthenet.org/the-house-just-voted-for-kosa
> If you’ve been following our updates, you’ll know the accountability positioning hides the actual design. The bill defines “know” or “knows” to mean “to know or should have known,” and that phrase runs through sections covering platforms, AI chatbots, and gaming services.
In their recent (two days ago) reporting on KOSA, they dedicate an entire paragraph (see above) specifically to explaining how a word choice is being used to hide the main thrust of the bill, and continue on for some paragraphs detailing how a single disguised and misleading word is the beachhead for an affront to privacy. So their failing to call out Google on this word choice reads as 'lack of familiarity with the terrain', as when on more well-understood ground — since US gov't reporting rather predates the tech industry, after all — they do call out such things.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm struggling not to be sarcastic here, as I'm not quite stoked about Canadian Tire owning most of what's left of Hudson's Bay Company. It's pretty undeniable proof that age and revenue will not make a company immortal or invulnerable though.
Hudson mismanagement was legendary. Their business expansion into the Netherlands was so terrible that it's almost as if they wanted to fail.
Sometimes I feel the same about Google when I see them burn goodwill time and time again.
Somehow they seem to have more despite not earning it for such a long time.
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#87Is it weird that my reaction to all of this is that I am just going to drop these websites when they ask me for this?
Not really.
I closed and walked away from a long standing account with HSBC when they introduced a requirement in their app for me to have Google Keyboard installed and active as my primary keyboard rather than my own one that I knew wouldn't send my keypresses to Google.
Sometimes all we need is the final push from them declining your business unless you jump through their hoops to agree that it's not worth your time.
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#88Not gonna happen. Ever. If a web requires me to do this to access it, I simply refuse. The last time I needed some web was my electricity company - sent them a ticket with a complaint. They replied with some bs like "your browser is simply not supported" so I kept sending them the same ticket over and over again until I got a real response and it seems they decided to change the system. To use my favorite quote: That…
If a web requires me to do this to access it, I simply refuse. A friend of mine recently tried to get a payment from an insurance policy. But the New York Life web site wouldn't work right. She ended up talking to someone on the phone eventually and they told her it's her fault, because Safari isn't supported. Only Chrome and Edge. Her choice was to install Chrome, or walk away from $35,000. You may "just refuse," bu…
Do you really believe that you can discharge a debt of $35,000 simply by saying "I don't support Safari" to your creditor? I would not try that tactic with a bank, I can tell you that much.
I would still refuse and force them to send the money through snail mail.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, for some reason I ran into that issue, too. I'm not giving my governmental ID to some random corporation. If that means I can't use their services, then so be it. Someone always has to be the first to say "no thanks" to their bs.
How many people on Discord would really give ID? It's not Facebook; all their names are pseudonyms, and they're talking privately.
There is a significant subset of the population that has a lot of their social life on discord. They’re not going to let something as simple as ID verification cut them off from their friends. You and I know how important it is to protect PII, but we are probably older and remember a time when more importance was placed on protecting your identity.
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#90A few days back, Google reCaptcha suddenly showed me a QR code and asked me to scan it with my mobile to "verify" I was human. I was taken aback, and at first thought my system / browser had some malware that was messing with the Captcha ... (Apparently, this started appearing from last month - https://cybernews.com/privacy/google-qr-code-recaptcha-requi... ).
I have neither hands nor webcam nor phone.
Whatdo?
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This post is hypothetical sarcasm... only two of the above are truthful.