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Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by jrochkind1 »

roadside_picnic wrote: post #44
SimianSci wrote: post #14

More signal that the open-weight models should be our destiny as an industry. These proprietary models are being used to usher in more surveillance and gatekeeping across the industry.

I have a home server that runs Qwen3.6-35B-A3B through llama.cpp with Open WebUI for the user facing interface. My teen isn't super interested in AI, but whenever they do feel curious they have their own account they can use on our home network. As far as chatting goes local models are more than capable for handling standard chat questions, doing research, helping troubleshoot problems etc. In fact it was an agent po…

What about local models do you find preferable?

I guess "starting to find them preferable" suggests to me you think they work better, but this is surprising to me so I think I may have misunderstood, so I ask!

Like you're saying they work better than the proprietary models (in what ways?), or you find them mostly good enough and prefer the privacy or cost, or what?

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by smotched »

petcat wrote: post #53

US regulations on AI is going to make it more and more difficult for EU/UK/everyone else to access these model providers. At this point it's completely outgrageous that the EU, UK, or even Canada can't put forth the funding to develop their own local AI model industry.

Its not a government issue in those counties, the US government didnt fund anthopic, openai, etc.

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by janalsncm »

lenerdenator wrote: post #71
throwaw12 wrote: post #11

Couple years ago the West was complaining about surveillance and scoring system of citizens in China (or was making fun of it) Seems like US wants to get ahead on this and be #1 Also Sam Altman will love this idea, because he already tried it with Worldcoin

Well, the powers-that-be saw how a society that doesn't allow a lot of open criticism works in the form of China. The massive returns on investment, the near-permanent ruling class in the form of party cadres, etc. Then they decided they want that for themselves. If you do business with totalitarian societies that aren't made to liberalize, you too will become a totalitarian society.

It’s funny, 30 years ago the argument was the exact opposite: China opening up and doing business with the rest of the world would force them to liberalize.

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by johndhi »

sevenzero wrote: post #79
ai-x wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm happy to give my identity to Anthropic and crush my competition with irrational fear about privacy and personal data. This is a serious competitive advantage and a moat.

>This is a serious competitive advantage Given they have laughable uptime and I have yet to find a useful project mostly written by claude... I doubt it.

Huh? Limited uptime means you can't write projects with it? I assume downtime means you can't host on it ...

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by epolanski »

herodoturtle wrote: post #23
SimianSci wrote: post #14

More signal that the open-weight models should be our destiny as an industry. These proprietary models are being used to usher in more surveillance and gatekeeping across the industry.

I’m curious (and please forgive my ignorance if it’s obvious), are open weight models practically feasible? I mean from a financial and sustainability standpoint, assuming they’re equally powerful as their proprietary counterparts. I guess I’m trying to understand the economics of it.

Yes they are you can use Qwen, DS4 Pro and GLM 5.2 if you have the hardware to do so.

They are not SOTA in various ways but they have better economics.

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Post by biraj-rocks »

CobrastanJorji wrote: post #46
SimianSci wrote: post #14

More signal that the open-weight models should be our destiny as an industry. These proprietary models are being used to usher in more surveillance and gatekeeping across the industry.

Someone should start a nonprofit company focused on developing Open AI. I bet we could even get some sensible billionaires to help the effort.

i’d really love to be wrong, i don't think that the economics of it would let it happen.

the potential of wealth creation with AI is so high, and also the fact that research, pre-training and inference is so expensive that, that any open-AI would eventually become OpenAI.

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by sevenzero »

munk-a wrote: post #63
scottyah wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How could it not? I get the whole fear of AI making robots and going anti-human, but after using the tech for a few months now that seems too absurd.

There are two rationale objections, I think... One is the potential for skill rot where AI grows a heavy dependence in new employees and once the real price per token cost is settled on and discoverable (post massive IPOs and probably a while post - not immediately after) we, as a society, are left with a bunch of people dependent on a deeply inefficient technology to maintain software we now view as vital that might…

I agree with the skill drain argument but also think its a little too dramatic. Most people still can do the shit claude does for them, it just takes them 10x as long.

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Post by ieie3366 »

dvduval wrote: post #56

We’ve been in sort of a golden age where massive money is getting pulled in and consumers are getting a great deal. That’s not going to last, and surely surveillance and personal information are going to fit into the formula for success for these companies. It’s very similar to when Google was a brand new search engine.

Consumers don't use claude. they use free slop models. claude token usage is something like 98% professional users using it for work

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by epolanski »

petcat wrote: post #53

US regulations on AI is going to make it more and more difficult for EU/UK/everyone else to access these model providers. At this point it's completely outgrageous that the EU, UK, or even Canada can't put forth the funding to develop their own local AI model industry.

We don't have the right incentives to attract the right talent and capital. Plain and simple.
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