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Apple is going to raise device prices, but when?

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Re: Apple is going to raise device prices, but when?

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I was planning to wait until the M6 generation to replace my 16" MBP M1 Pro. But after Cook said they will have to increase prices soon, I went out and bought an M5 15" Air with 24GB/1TB.

I think the M6 Pro/Max generation will have a substantial price increase given the new design, OLED, N2 TSMC node, and memory prices not coming down.

Re: Apple is going to raise device prices, but when?

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The rainbow beachball cursor was added in OS X. I think your memory of the Mac OS 9 machines might be mixed up. Classic Mac OS used a cooperative threading model which meant that one program locking up would lock up the whole computer, but Windows 95 was only slightly better in this regard. It didn't have any classical race conditions with the network as you can't "race" in a world with no preemptive threads--control…

It was a wristwatch back then, right? Win 95 had real processes and threads, memory protection and all of that but it wasn't terribly effective. The whole machine would go down frequently (as did Win NT despite Microsoft’s insistence otherwise; Microsoft kept repeating "It's the hardware stupid", Win2K was a great improvement but WDDM in Vista meant you could crash your display system and not crash the rest of the ma…

> It was a wristwatch back then, right?

Only if the application explicitly set the cursor. There was no default indication that an application had stopped processing events - your only clue was that everything stopped responding.

Re: Apple is going to raise device prices, but when?

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> I suspect the price hike would drown out the news of all the new stuff. And I really don’t think Apple wants that. I think they could get away with it if they do something like drop the price of the lowest device tier (or minimally hold price steady) and only increase prices on their more premium line up, where the premium buyers are less price sensitive.

The problem is the things going up are core. It’s not like the cameras are getting more expensive, it’s the RAM and processors and storage. Which all the phones have to have. If anything the percentage increase is probably higher on the low end phones relative to total bill cost.

Which is where you accept the loss. Lower cost products are often required to be loss leaders to get people through the door.

Re: Apple is going to raise device prices, but when?

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Tim justifying selling a computer for more than 10k when that Mac Studio comes out

It’s pretty incredible to get a Mac Studio that performant for only two weeks’ pay… Well, two weeks’ pay for doing what you’d need to be doing to justify that Mac Studio, of course.

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Still getting a MacBook Neo for my teen now rather than wait.

Assuming a refreshed Macbook Neo, the second generation of Macbook Neo should have 12GB of RAM

I'm assuming they'll stick with 8GB RAM to keep from increasing the price much

Re: Apple is going to raise device prices, but when?

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Tim justifying selling a computer for more than 10k when that Mac Studio comes out

It’s pretty incredible to get a Mac Studio that performant for only two weeks’ pay… Well, two weeks’ pay for doing what you’d need to be doing to justify that Mac Studio, of course.

Money aside since it’s probably getting to a used car territory pricing, but completely agree how amazing the Mac Studio is if you need it and know what you are doing

Re: Apple is going to raise device prices, but when?

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Well Apple has no excuse for this. They literally had a quarter trillion dollars sitting, they could had bought an entire ram manufacturing company along with its entire supply chain (sand included).

The argument “the market cornered us” is ridiculous for a behemoth like Apple. They had the opportunity to end, android, pc, consoles overnight.

Tim blew this.

Re: Apple is going to raise device prices, but when?

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I think it would be uncharacteristic of Apple to raise prices anytime from now till new products are announced in September. It doesn’t match Apple’s brand image (like the author says). As pointed in another post by John Gruber, Apple kept selling the trash can Mac Pro for a very high price for years without any updates. So it can certainly afford to bear this pain for a couple of more months and bundle all the price…

This sure seems like the Apple way to do it. "The old stuff is now more expensive" is a worse marketing announcement than "the new stuff is awesome, and with it comes a higher price just like most years".

Apple doesn’t increase prices most years, so that doesn’t really make sense. The iPhone Pros this year also look to be a minor update.

Re: Apple is going to raise device prices, but when?

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That was a pretty average price for "value" laptops at the time, much like the pricing of the Neo today.

At least the iBook would come out of sleep when you opened the lid, I don't think Windows laptops could manage that until 2007. You still have to turn off USB power management on a windows machine to avoid serious problems just as you have to turn off Bluetooth power management if you don't want to be connecting and reconnecting your headphones several times a day.

> At least the iBook would come out of sleep when you opened the lid, I don't think Windows laptops could manage that until 2007.

I think that was very hardware-dependent. I don't recall what hardware I had, but it had a > 90% success rate of resuming from suspend and/or hibernation under Windows XP.

Apple's advantage there being pretty obvious: they control the entire range of hardware

> You still have to turn off USB power management on a windows machine to avoid serious problems just as you have to turn off Bluetooth power management if you don't want to be connecting and reconnecting your headphones several times a day.

The irony being that I still have to turn wifi and bluetooth off and on on my macbook air regularly today, as airplay stops working every ~10-20 transfers / every other week.

Re: Apple is going to raise device prices, but when?

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Well Apple has no excuse for this. They literally had a quarter trillion dollars sitting, they could had bought an entire ram manufacturing company along with its entire supply chain (sand included). The argument “the market cornered us” is ridiculous for a behemoth like Apple. They had the opportunity to end, android, pc, consoles overnight. Tim blew this.

> they could had bought an entire ram manufacturing company along with its entire supply chain

And then what, sell it for cheap? Right, Apple is well-known for subsidising their hardware.

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