Just wait until they release their coding model. Once they do an Opus-level coding model, the sandcastle of the AI economy in the US will fall
They had deepseek-coder.
Yeah but it wasnt close to Opus etc. Still a good local model when it released
DeepSeek Introduces Vision
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#83I wonder what it has to say for the Tank Man image.
I heard it would just refuse to talk about that incident.
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Can you explain what the benefits are of actually "talking" with the bot instead of typing and reading? As someone who would rather send a slack message to a coworker rather than actually walking over and talk to them, the idea of having to talk with my laptop is not appealing at all, haha.
I thought this way until I tried it, and the main difference is that when I'm managing tons of agents at once or just reviewing some plan / approving next steps, or need to give quick feedback/ask a simple followup, the voice interface makes me much faster and more likely to continue because it's lower friction (and in many cases that's good, though not all) and can be hands-free. Actually, my thoughts on this matter…
I don't know about you, but I force myself to read the whole spaghetti thought process of any AI that's actually working on code, and make sure I understand what the hell it just said before I ask questions or give it a green light. Even or especially when whatever it said is full of fluffy stuff about having understood the problem space. That's usually where a well-placed question can bring the entire structure crashing down.
"You're right to push back" has become the gold standard phrase I'm looking for from these things to assure myself that I'm covering all the bases and understanding what it's building (not that that's enough, and not that it isn't still going to build some ungodly blob anyway).
I kinda like using voice to jot down my next questions or iterate on things, but there's a clear danger to it, which is that you may inadvertently be signing off on stuff you haven't thoroughly read. If there's one thing about LLM-written code, it's that the devil is in the details.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you explain what the benefits are of actually "talking" with the bot instead of typing and reading? As someone who would rather send a slack message to a coworker rather than actually walking over and talk to them, the idea of having to talk with my laptop is not appealing at all, haha.
I am someone that prefers a slack message to a coworker than talking to them and I use AI. My current flow is: Google Eloquent to capture 127WPM (my typing is best case is 65wpm). This lets me get the thoughts out without thinking too much about structure or flow, the same way I would brain-dump type it. Next I use AI to compress, summarize, and restructure to create a clear coherent message for my peer to read (whic…
I would find this behavior extremely aggravating from a co-worker. If you can’t be bothered to edit down your ramblings by hand, just don’t send me anything at all.
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Well, it is a Chinese model, maybe it thinks better in Chinese?
A chinese model which tells me it is Claude from Anthropic? Not really. Chinese HW yes, SW not.
Google Chrome tells me it's like 14 different things. How is that any different then DeepSeek saying it is Claude?
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you explain what the benefits are of actually "talking" with the bot instead of typing and reading? As someone who would rather send a slack message to a coworker rather than actually walking over and talk to them, the idea of having to talk with my laptop is not appealing at all, haha.
Accessibility.
What about accuracy?
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Well, it is a Chinese model, maybe it thinks better in Chinese?
A chinese model which tells me it is Claude from Anthropic? Not really. Chinese HW yes, SW not.
I guess Claude isn’t an American model either considering how Anthropic has fed basically all of the globe into it.
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If so, would other models like ChatGPT benefit from translating the user's prompt to Chinese/Japanese and thinking in Hanzi/Kanji and then converting the response back to the user's language before displaying it?
I believe that most reasoning models actually think in their own "language" which is not really understandable by humans. The thinking traces that are shown in the UI are actually summaries generated by a smaller model in plain english (or user language). Sometimes this leaks through and you see some chinese/japanese characters in e.g. Claude's reasoning.
Wait, this isn't real, is it? Is there actually an intermediate model that translates DeepSeek's thinking from its "alien language" into human languages? That's not actually the case, right?
I thought "thinking" is literally the model generating additional text in a human language that shows its "thought process". It's added to the model's context, which helps it reason better because it now has this self-generated context.
The "their own language" idea seems to come from some recent science fiction where LLMs develop their alien language and take over the world by 2037 or something.
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#90For those not trying, this allows Deepseek to understand a picture (instead of just extracting text from it), and it can describe what's in the picture, but this is not an image generation system, so you can't ask it to modify an image. Personally, I'm a bit surprised the DS chat app still doesn't offer its own text to speech and speech to text features (I know DS doesn't have any ASR model for example, but there are…
Can you explain what the benefits are of actually "talking" with the bot instead of typing and reading? As someone who would rather send a slack message to a coworker rather than actually walking over and talk to them, the idea of having to talk with my laptop is not appealing at all, haha.
I've been using ChatGTP by voice for things like cooking and house repair stuff. It's quite convenient for situations in which your hands are busy.
Other week I fixed a a water valve. After planning the thing with ChatGTP I brought the new valve. Then I described what I was seeing as I swapped the old valve for the new one to make sure everything was right. Really cool experience!