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Re: Anthropic employees accuse Trump administration of targeting them

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Post by khalic »

extr wrote: post #63

I mean obviously they're correct but also the complaints of the administration aren't totally without basis. - They're obviously being targeted politically because they refuse to kiss the ring, vibes, whatever you want to call it. - They're also justifiably being scrutinized because they just spent like 3 months telling everyone that Mythos is a nuclear bomb and telling the government to fuck off as they drip fed acc…

Ah yes, giving cybersecurity a 3 month advance is such a horrible thing to do!! Bad anthropic

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Post by crispyambulance »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #30
catigula wrote: post #24

They did a whole PR cycle about how dangerous their technology was. They refused to release it for public consumption. How is this “targeting”? It’s literally what was requested.

They were asking for regulation. They were not asking to be singled out and prevented from releasing newer models while everybody else keeps going as usual. Based on the reasoning for blocking Fable, every current model should be blocked. GPT 5.5 is similarly strong and has fewer guardrails, for example.

  > They were asking for regulation.
That's what they said, but were they, really?

I've heard others call it a marketing ploy that AI companies keep coming back to-- the idea that "it's soooo dangerous, we have to be careful".

Re: Anthropic employees accuse Trump administration of targeting them

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Post by sanderjd »

extr wrote: post #63

I mean obviously they're correct but also the complaints of the administration aren't totally without basis. - They're obviously being targeted politically because they refuse to kiss the ring, vibes, whatever you want to call it. - They're also justifiably being scrutinized because they just spent like 3 months telling everyone that Mythos is a nuclear bomb and telling the government to fuck off as they drip fed acc…

Yes. It's true that the pretext is not entirely without merit. But it's also true that it's a pretext.

But in cases like this, the pretext shouldn't be taken too seriously. Because they would have just found another one. It isn't actually particularly important that it is plausible, it's more like a happy coincidence.

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Post by rdtsc »

khalic wrote: post #64
rdtsc wrote: post #60

Didn't their CEO argue how super powerful and dangerous their AI models are and government should be able to restricting usage https://abc7.com/post/anthropic-ceo-dario-amodei-calls-stron... > "We're proposing stronger regulation of the technology, proposing giving the government the ability to, again, in a narrow way, block deployment of unsafe technology," he said. The government: "We're restricting its usage to US…

You guys are going to have to find another argument because this is just stupid. Being singled out doesn’t equate to regulation being applied. The story is: anthropic refuses to give the US give an abliterated version of Claude for their weapons system, the US gov retaliates. You’re rooting for the mass murderers, good job

> You’re rooting for the mass murderers, good job

How did you figure that? Who are you talking about?

Re: Anthropic employees accuse Trump administration of targeting them

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Post by sanderjd »

garciasn wrote: post #21
etchalon wrote: post #9

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Petty means they're excessively concerned with trivial matters, minor slights, or small grievances; the Trump Administration is FAR MORE than petty. They're not simply petty; instead, they're vindictive , retaliatory , and vengeful .

Porque no los dos.

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Post by sanderjd »

blitzar wrote: post #70

> Workers at the artificial intelligence company have been puzzled and increasingly concerned by the administration’s move to limit their latest A.I. models. There is no way any employees at anthropic are this dumb.

"puzzled and increasingly concerned" is just journalist speak for "super pissed off".

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Post by davidw »

fumar wrote: post #71

Is regulation unregulated in the US? As in it’s missing consistency and transparency. Beyond Anthropic, the US signals to the world that depending and using American solutions is high risk. Is that what the US government desires? The digital battleground across regions is on the rise. I don’t see us as the US on the right path.

They don't care about the long term - it's a smash and grab to get as much as they can while they can.

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Post by bflesch »

ifwinterco wrote: post #38
spelk wrote: post #28

One wonders if this might be a net positive for the world if Anthropic is forced to terminate it's non-US citizen employees. I would hope they return to their home countries with their expertise and start or join new competing frontier labs, similar to how Taiwan's homegrown semiconductor industry arose from US companies enforcing a bamboo ceiling on their Asian engineers. Taiwan was able to repatriate their national…

Indeed, forcing Europeans to stay in Europe might be the only thing that could revive the moribund European AI scene

Nothing of value is lost for Europe because we mostly work with natural intelligence. The malinvestment bubble happens in the US, and hardware prices will come down.

We're all dependent on Taiwan but others also depend on ASML which is located in Europe. Available AI services are good enough, and we sit and watch while US leadership and population is beta testing AI mass surveillance for us.

In terms of AI-based warfare Ukraine is very much ahead and they are also European for which we are very thankful.

So feel free to keep your AI scene and AI hustlers in the US, we don't need them.

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Post by 8note »

godwinson__4-8 wrote: post #10
viccis wrote: post #4

Anthropic sowing: Hehe yeah guys check out this model it's super duper scary and powerful it's a huge deal Anthropic reaping: Hey wait a second you weren't supposed to take that seriously it was just marketing :(

Was it not just a few weeks ago the government was telling Anthropic to take the guardrails off of the "super duper scary" models? Now they want them back on? AI for me and not for thee? Or just another opportunity for a petulant administration to target Anthropic for not doing what they wanted the first time?

literally yes. that is what export restrictions do

Re: Anthropic employees accuse Trump administration of targeting them

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Post by tomjakubowski »

sailfast wrote: post #65

Any company building this kind of tech should have a separate shell headquarters on some low regulation island country. Any government work can be done via MOU with a US subsidiary staffed by Americans. This kind of capricious, unexplained control is bullsh*t. I’m not saying that I want companies to have to go offshore or that that would be a good thing. Just that you’ve got no leverage if your corporate structure ca…

A separate shell headquarters on some low regulation island country? Like FTX?
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