What else can we say to stuff like this except fuck the United States?
Speak with your money as much as you can.
U.S. pulling ocean sensors a 'shock' for Canadian research as El Niño nears
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Re: U.S. pulling ocean sensors a 'shock' for Canadian research as El Niño nears
#82Let me guess, they want it privatized? IIRC, Project 2025 argued that private companies provided more accurate weather forecasts, and thus one can just dismantle gov. agencies like NOAA and the market for such services will take care of itself.
project 2025 is also just about the wholesale destruction of the opposition, including academia.
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#83As a physical oceanographer, the destruction of these observing systems is horrific. It is hard to stress enough how intentionally OMB is trying to disassemble American science. The new (proposed) OMB guidelines prohibit international collaboration without pre approval for example. They also codify a political grant approval process. https://arstechnica.com/science/2026/05/the-office-of-manage... Additionally, OMB is…
Can anyone explain that "anti-science" crusade to me? This doesn't seem to have any effect than reduce America's standing in the world.
It's all outlined in Gulliver's Travels.
Re: U.S. pulling ocean sensors a 'shock' for Canadian research as El Niño nears
#84What else can we say to stuff like this except fuck the United States?
Well we could try to Figure out the motives and justification, or we can just get mad and feel smug.
Here is what the National Science Foundation has to say about it:
> "The decision to de-scope aligns with NSF's wider strategy of a nimbler approach to prioritize support for evolving scientific priorities and emerging technologies, as well as smart life cycle management within its research infrastructure portfolio."
Seems like even if we want to understand the justifications, the people making these decisions don't care to share them with us.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The US military budget is 900 billion dollars. And we're about to pay over a third of that to Iran?
Is it actually coming out of the military budget? I assumed we were just going to get taxed for it, or they'd pull it from some other places that actually needs the funds. Alternatively, they could just increase the military budget by 300 billion (or more).
It's a good measure of scale. The USA is paying Iran an amount that is 1/3rd of its military budget in reparations because they "won".
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's no point in spending taxpayer money understanding what may or may not happen in the future, when we already know what will happen: Jesus is coming back. We need to spend on the military for the final battle of Armageddon. ^ Literally the beliefs of the most influential part of the political base of the administration.
Is this from Bannon and co.? What is their rationale for being militaristic during a return of Jesus? Wouldn't Jesus not like that very much?
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US military budget is 900 billion dollars. The government can afford a few hundred million for some sensors, it should not need private sector patrons
> The US military budget is 900 billion dollars. And we're about to pay over a third of that to Iran?
No, that was fake news. The 300 billion dollars isn't coming from the US.
Re: U.S. pulling ocean sensors a 'shock' for Canadian research as El Niño nears
#88As a physical oceanographer, the destruction of these observing systems is horrific. It is hard to stress enough how intentionally OMB is trying to disassemble American science. The new (proposed) OMB guidelines prohibit international collaboration without pre approval for example. They also codify a political grant approval process. https://arstechnica.com/science/2026/05/the-office-of-manage... Additionally, OMB is…
Can anyone explain that "anti-science" crusade to me? This doesn't seem to have any effect than reduce America's standing in the world.
They're ideological goals, not technical ones. If they don't make sense to you it's because you're not viewing it through their ideological lens.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Its not even about saving money. If they just wanted to save money they'd just stop paying attention to the data coming in, retask/lay off the people working on it, and let the buoys stay out there. A dumb idea to me, but at least that's consistent. Let other organizations decide to manage the buoys. While I'd prefer for the government to do it, it could be possible to have other groups fund such things. It would be…
This is the strangest part to me. They will spend millions and several years to dismantle a system that, realistically, could also just be abandoned. Not that we should leave more random, unused equipment out in the world, but if this were really about cost savings, and given this administration does not care at all about the environment, then leaving the equipment in place was the best option by their stated rationa…
Astronaut meme: it was never about cost savings