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Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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> Researchers at Amazon had used a series of prompts to get Anthropic’s Fable 5 model to provide them with information that could be used to aid cyberattacks... Are there going to be bans on things that could be used to aid in school shootings next?

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SSRIs are a first line treatment across many EU countries too, yet we somehow manage.

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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> Researchers at Amazon had used a series of prompts to get Anthropic’s Fable 5 model to provide them with information that could be used to aid cyberattacks... Are there going to be bans on things that could be used to aid in school shootings next?

One infringes on a specific constitutional right.

Also, this country would get even more dangerous without good citizens owning guns.

IMO it's like herd immunity. Not everyone has guns. But the criminals don't know who does and who doesn't, so in a way they treat all homes as potentially being armed.

Our criminals are already pretty care free, I can't imagine how much worse it would be if they KNEW no one was armed.

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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> Are there going to be bans on things that could be used to aid in school shootings next? No. Because us Americans don’t care about school shootings. I’d rather the government invest in S&P500 going higher. You overestimate how many people actually care about mass shootings in America.

I think you underestimate how many people actually care about mass shootings.

The author said nothing of the people but of the government itself. 12 years ago, elementary school children were slaughtered and even that wasn’t enough to ban guns.

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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I still am struggling to understand why they informed the government about something that is known to be an issue in every LLM. There is no LLM that cannot be jailbroken, so unless this means that we have reached the absolute maximum publicly accessible US made LLMs are allowed to operate at with GPT 5.5, this is not grounded in any sane regulation attempt. Does anyone know what limits Fable 5 has overstepped in the…

Its not Fable 5 that overstepped in the eyes of the US government.

It's Anthropic.

This is transparent revenge for them daring to try and push back a little on enabling war crimes.

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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> Researchers at Amazon had used a series of prompts to get Anthropic’s Fable 5 model to provide them with information that could be used to aid cyberattacks... Are there going to be bans on things that could be used to aid in school shootings next?

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Everything you said is here is wildly and completely inaccurate and seems to be based on fringe conspiracy theorist RFK Jr's thoroughly debunked lies.

The exact opposite is true. Countries with the highest SSRI use have the lowest mass shooting rates. The evidence doesn't lie. Politicians do.

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/10/rfk-jr-misleads-about-anti...

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Crazy to think that people in some places in the world work for $2 per day. Jailbraking fable is economically equivalent to the labor of a thousand people.

Wait until you hear how many families could survive on the food you throw away

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Given Amazon's fairly large equity stake in Anthropic, I really don't get their motivation. Anyone care to speculate?

It depends what the end goal may be. If the end goal is that only regulated US companies can use Fable, that is a pretty good outcome for Amazon, and also for Jeff Bezos's new startup which aims to use AI to monopolize large industries that depend on advanced engineering in the physical world.

>If the end goal is that only regulated US companies can use Fable, that is a pretty good outcome for Amazon

It's a terrible outcome for Amazon because it destroys Anthropic's revenue. Roughly half of Anthropic's customers are foreigners, and they wouldn't use Anthropic if its next generation model was banned while other providers' next generation models aren't. And if the US follows through and bans all Mythos-level models for foreigners, then in 6-12 months the entire global market will be overtaken by China when its models catch up, and Amazon will lose money on its investment in OpenAI too.

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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I still am struggling to understand why they informed the government about something that is known to be an issue in every LLM. There is no LLM that cannot be jailbroken, so unless this means that we have reached the absolute maximum publicly accessible US made LLMs are allowed to operate at with GPT 5.5, this is not grounded in any sane regulation attempt. Does anyone know what limits Fable 5 has overstepped in the…

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Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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I think it's just to hype Anthropic. Check it out, we have products so dangerous the government banned them, we must be so advanced . (Their competitors cannot make such a claim.)

You think Dario called up Andy Jassy and told him "Hey, we're trying to get Fable banned, so can you please go talk to the government and tell them that they need to ban it"?

He's always talking about how dangerous AI is, how the models he's building could be used for cyber attacks, and how if his company is successful then at least 50% of the white-collar workforce will lose their jobs.

Doesn't seem that unlikely he might say something like that.. Unless he's super-villain evil it sounds like he believes the government needs to do something?

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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Everything you said is here is wildly and completely inaccurate and seems to be based on fringe conspiracy theorist RFK Jr's thoroughly debunked lies. The exact opposite is true. Countries with the highest SSRI use have the lowest mass shooting rates. The evidence doesn't lie. Politicians do. https://www.factcheck.org/2025/10/rfk-jr-misleads-about-anti...

To be scrupulously fair, the SSRI thing was a conspiracy theory well before RFK Jr. came into the spotlight.
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