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H.R. 6028 would fundamentally change the U.S. Copyright Office

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Re: H.R. 6028 would fundamentally change the U.S. Copyright Office

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post #81

Anything that destroys copyright is a good thing. It is a societal evil.

Last time someone uttered something similar, I didn't get an answer, so I'll ask it to you: what entitles you to free access to any song, movie or book?

What entitles you to use force to stop me creating a copy of something?

Re: H.R. 6028 would fundamentally change the U.S. Copyright Office

#83
post #25

I don't really understand the hypothetical problems here. "The copyright office head would be a presidential appointee, which could make the copyright office more political". I mean, I guess? Are people worried they're going to start selectively enforcing copyright law? But they don't enforce copyright law right now...

It’s not hypothetical at all. The FCC is currently being used for political attacks: https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/28/media/abc-fcc-disney-licenses... Those who are under attack happen to also be the biggest copyrighter holders, so this would open up a new avenue of attack.

It's really hard for me to feel sorry for Disney here. Is it possible for both sides to lose a lawsuit?

Re: H.R. 6028 would fundamentally change the U.S. Copyright Office

#84
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last time someone uttered something similar, I didn't get an answer, so I'll ask it to you: what entitles you to free access to any song, movie or book?

What entitles you to use force to stop me creating a copy of something?

Not me, the state. That is significantly different.

The reason is damaging someone's livelihood in the cases I mentioned. Or large scale economic damage in case you're copying money.

Re: H.R. 6028 would fundamentally change the U.S. Copyright Office

#85
post #47

I usually agree with the EFF on things, but after reading their linked https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/05/us-copyright-offices-d... I couldn't disagree more. An LLM is a predict the next word algorithm. If the model is overfitting, it's basically copy paste. There have been several documented instances where that happened and full GPL code, including headers and attribution were copy/pasted by the "AI." AI is esse…

> An LLM is a predict the next word algorithm.

This is what's known as a category error; an LLM is a 'model', not an algorithm.

It's not even an accurate claim; LLMs predict the next token, not the next word.

> AI is essentially copy paste with more steps

What about when AI creates a limerick about a kubernetes cluster run by Buddhist Monks? Or any number of other novel creations?

Fortunately the courts recognized the transformative use involved in making a model, which is fair use of copyrighted works, in kadrey v meta platforms.

> The most infurating thing however is how AI companies sidestep the IP rights of authors

transformative use falls under fair use, permission from authors is not needed to use legally acquired copyright works for training. Kadrey v Meta Platforms and Bartz v Anthropic.

> but then claim to own those IP rights when their own generated output leaks.

Corporations gonna do corporate things. Blatant hypocrisy is par for the course. Organize and take them to court.

Re: H.R. 6028 would fundamentally change the U.S. Copyright Office

#86
post #81

Anything that destroys copyright is a good thing. It is a societal evil.

Last time someone uttered something similar, I didn't get an answer, so I'll ask it to you: what entitles you to free access to any song, movie or book?

Because it’s effectively free to copy.

I want copyright to be completely abolished and patronage to re-become normal and common. Most of my favorite artists already distribute most of their work for free and rely on the latter.

Re: H.R. 6028 would fundamentally change the U.S. Copyright Office

#87
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not hypothetical at all. The FCC is currently being used for political attacks: https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/28/media/abc-fcc-disney-licenses... Those who are under attack happen to also be the biggest copyrighter holders, so this would open up a new avenue of attack.

It's really hard for me to feel sorry for Disney here. Is it possible for both sides to lose a lawsuit?

It's not about feeling bad for Disney. Disney is tremendously powerful, so if the federal government can coerce them to do whatever the federal government wants, that has massive widespread effects for everyone. It creates an environment in which powerful corporations are expected to act as political enforcers, creating a monoculture of ideas and suppressing dissent.

Re: H.R. 6028 would fundamentally change the U.S. Copyright Office

#88
post #21

I don't really understand the hypothetical problems here. "The copyright office head would be a presidential appointee, which could make the copyright office more political". I mean, I guess? Are people worried they're going to start selectively enforcing copyright law? But they don't enforce copyright law right now...

Never gotten any emails from lawyers, I see. Copyright laws are heavily enforced, only selectively.

Yes, so what this does is centralized that selective enforcement directly under politicized control, so that it can be weaponized against political enemies.

Re: H.R. 6028 would fundamentally change the U.S. Copyright Office

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you kidding? If there’s something in there they don’t like I don’t put it past this administration to break it internally and then make a case for shutting it down. This whole thing sounds very similar to the postal service situation…

They will break the system and use it for their friends. No way they are shutting it down. There is way too much money to be made in selective enforcement.

It's not about money as such, it's about political control and suppressing dissent. All of that is a means to an end for a small number of rich people becoming even richer, yes, but it's part of the bigger picture rather than some isolated corruption move. Although I assume it will be understood that you can make your copyright problems go away by posting a generous donation to some Trump-aligned charitable foundation.

Re: H.R. 6028 would fundamentally change the U.S. Copyright Office

#90

Anything that destroys copyright is a good thing. It is a societal evil.

> [Copyright] is a societal evil. Such an extreme and emotional statement makes me think you've never really thought it through. For instance: without copyright the GPL is nothing . Also without copyright, all of the profit made on creative works (of a perhaps smaller pie) would get be kept by distributors like Amazon or Netflix. Authors wouldn't get a dime anymore, it'll all go to the likes of Bezos.

> without copyright the GPL is nothing

That’s ok, GPL’s entire purpose and only restriction is to prevent other copyrights.

> without copyright, all of the profit made on creative works (of a perhaps smaller pie) would get be kept by distributors like Amazon or Netflix

This is already true in most cases: companies own everything their employees create for them. And without copyright, studios would still pay artists, because that’s the only way art is created (which even rich people want, although you probably and I think their taste mostly sucks, so does everyone else’s…)

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