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Re: Emacs appearances in pop culture

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post #22

Not exactly an appearance, but I definitely give emacs a shout-out in the end notes of my new novel: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GYCZJVGX

Amazon! Are you selling an e-book? I couldn't access the site. I wouldn't buy from them anyway as I am sure they require DRM. I don't buy DRM.

I chose the DRM-free route on Amazon for "Means & Motive" ( https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GYCZJVGX ) . Self-published authors can choose to be DRM-free on Amazon now. You can also buy it via Barnes & Noble (paperback), links here: https://frequal.com/novels/

Re: Emacs appearances in pop culture

#82

Not exactly an appearance, but I definitely give emacs a shout-out in the end notes of my new novel: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GYCZJVGX

That sounds really interesting, would like to read it. Amazon is not an option for me though since they don't let you download your ebook files anymore. Any other way I can get a copy and pay you for it?

Sample chapter here, DRM-free: https://frequal.com/novels/

The Amazon file is also DRM-free, I picked that option when self-publishing: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GYCZJVGX

Re: Emacs appearances in pop culture

#83
post #11

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One of the great onscreen code moments was in Superman III ¹ where Richard Pryors’ character has written some “impossible” program and when the listing is shown on screen it’s pretty much five screens of BASIC REM statements. ⸻ 1. A movie which exists primarily to set up a joke in Office Space .

More great on screen code moments (I haven't got round to Superman III, yet): https://behind-the-screens.tv But Superman III is not just REM statements.

Oh, it’s been a long time since I’ve watched the movie. Unlike I&II it does not bear rewatching, so I’m going by a memory of watching this for the first time in the 80s, probably on TV.

Re: Emacs appearances in pop culture

#84

There's an obscure Polish film from 2002, "Haker" (Hacker), obscure for many reasons and not in a good way; it's absolute drivel, not even accidentally funny in a MST3K, B movie kind of way - it's just really, really bad. In this gem there is a conversation about hacking into some system, and a character asks another a completely nonsensical semi jargon question, which goes like this: "Did you try Emacs via Sendmail?…

That expression reminds me of another old meme in Russian: "How does one patch KDE2 under FreeBSD?"

Re: Emacs appearances in pop culture

#85

There's an obscure Polish film from 2002, "Haker" (Hacker), obscure for many reasons and not in a good way; it's absolute drivel, not even accidentally funny in a MST3K, B movie kind of way - it's just really, really bad. In this gem there is a conversation about hacking into some system, and a character asks another a completely nonsensical semi jargon question, which goes like this: "Did you try Emacs via Sendmail?…

Even Emacs through sendmail couldn't penetrate the double wall of fire.

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Sadly no film or tv depiction exists because they ran out of film and budget waiting for the actor to figure out how to exit.

I think you mean Ed, the standard editor.

I first read this in the jargon file when I must have been… 10? 12? And it’s been stuck in my head ever since.

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There's an obscure Polish film from 2002, "Haker" (Hacker), obscure for many reasons and not in a good way; it's absolute drivel, not even accidentally funny in a MST3K, B movie kind of way - it's just really, really bad. In this gem there is a conversation about hacking into some system, and a character asks another a completely nonsensical semi jargon question, which goes like this: "Did you try Emacs via Sendmail?…

That's in TFA including a screenshot...

Re: Emacs appearances in pop culture

#88
post #66

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Allman FTW! (With you on spaces, though.)

waves Vim and spaces over here as well. Emacs is a great tool, I just can't stand its keyboard shortcuts. In theory I should try out evil mode, but I've got NeoVim configured how I like it and I don't want to spend the time on switching. As for tabs vs spaces, in theory, tabs are more flexible than spaces and allow everyone to view the file with their preferred indentation levels. In practice, I have only seen one co…

> you end up having to tell your colleagues "hey, you need to set your tabs to 4"

Vim's modelines (and Emacs' equivalent) can solve this part at least, no?

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post #30

> In a scene (Season 3, Episode 6) where protagonist Richard is coding with his new girlfriend Winnie at her apartment (okay, yeah… that’s not how all software engineers date, whatever the outside world may think), the two clash over the use of spaces versus tabs. Richard, a stubborn advocate of the tab character for indentation, argues: “I mean I do not get why anyone would use spaces over tabs. I mean, why not just…

Wow, I use Emacs and tabs over spaces. And K&R braces. Now we must fight to death.

Re: Emacs appearances in pop culture

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post #50
post #44

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> can’t remember ever meeting anyone who chose vi over vim Pleased to meet you. Most of my console dev time is spent in *BSD, where nvi is where I land. I find the the default creature-features of vim annoying, so I end up having to configure it to be a bit more quiet, and I don't know anything so compelling about it (a vi clone (to an extreme, acknowledged)) that nvi isn't a good enough place to be. I have vim insta…

> I don't know anything so compelling about it For me, it'd be primarily having more than one undo. Not being able to undo the second-to-last change is pretty bad. In fact, vim's undo being set up as a tree that can be walked with g- and g+ is excellent. It's impossible to lose a state of the buffer, even if you undo and make changes. It's a lot more practical to navigate than Emacs' undo, too. EDIT: I just realized…

> It's a lot more practical to navigate than Emacs' undo, too.

What the heck are you talking about?

Emacs undo is simply the State monad over a zipper into a persistent tree of buffer states.

I can't see how you could make it more practical?

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