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Nvidia partners with LG robotics to build humanoid robots in South Korea

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Re: Nvidia partners with LG robotics to build humanoid robots in South Korea

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Post by trumpdong »

letmevoteplease wrote: post #13
lenerdenator wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on what your definition of "good" is. If your definition is "it could, at some point, enable me to stop paying humans for their labor and pass along more of the value to major shareholders like myself", then yes, that's a reason to want humanoid robots. If your definition of "good" is a little more broadly scoped than the above - which it should be if you don't have an MBA and a substance abuse problem - then…

In a competitive market, this won't happen: "passing along more of the value to major shareholders like myself." The price of human labor will go down, but competition will force the price of goods to go down alongside it. Profit margins will stabilize, but the cost of living and the cost of goods will plummet. It's like the invention of the power loom: it was terrible for the wages of hand-weavers, but it made cloth…

More than half of the cost of living is land rent, which has nothing to do with human labor or cost of anything. It's a rather artificial forced payment that only increases when everything else gets cheaper.

Re: Nvidia partners with LG robotics to build humanoid robots in South Korea

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Post by jjav »

marcusverus wrote: post #63
yalogin wrote: post #47

We are going to be conditioned into thinking 20k-50k for a robot is ok to spend. The question is how long before get there

Nobody has to condition me to see a useful robot as being worth 20K+. Being able to offload domestic labor would be a huge win. So would the more subtle benefits of living in a home that is always in pristine condition. Once they're able to cook, they'll be in every middle-class household on earth.

That robot will of course be transmitting 24/7 video and audio to the mothership and be fully remotely controllable, and its corporate overlord will be able to override any programming you give it. Of course, "to enhance your customer experience".

No amount of money in the world would convince me to allow such a monster in my house.

Re: Nvidia partners with LG robotics to build humanoid robots in South Korea

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Post by elil17 »

gacgacgac wrote: post #40
elil17 wrote: post #29

It is good to see someone finally working on one of these without the stupid legs (I think the legs are stupid because they give your robot the chance to fall over and are not relevant for most environments).

Do you have stairs in your house?

The problems with legs are sufficient that having two robots would be better than having one with legs. Here's why:

- You can increase the payload a lot

- You can increase the torso weight which means you can use cheaper, heavier components

- It won't fall down and hurt someone if it malfunctions

- It will never be in a position where it might fall down the stairs (if it were, it could kill someone)

- It will use less power/have a longer battery life

Re: Nvidia partners with LG robotics to build humanoid robots in South Korea

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Post by fuzzythinker »

gacgacgac wrote: post #40
elil17 wrote: post #29

It is good to see someone finally working on one of these without the stupid legs (I think the legs are stupid because they give your robot the chance to fall over and are not relevant for most environments).

Do you have stairs in your house?

A carrier bot can be parked near the stairs to transport the bot to different floors

Re: Nvidia partners with LG robotics to build humanoid robots in South Korea

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Post by trumpdong »

mattlondon wrote: post #38
logicchains wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A robot with enough arm strength to properly clean a stubborn toilet wouldn't be safe around kids.

I let my current cleaner be around my kids. Now the question is is it riskier to have basically a stranger with strong arms in my house near my kids, or a robot with strong arms in my house near my kids? I feel like a robot has the technical capacity to see behind it and stop (I have many times for example been using the vacuum and moving my arm forwards and backwards and whacked a kid in the face with my elbow on th…

Your cleaner is a human and you trust them to behave like a human including having a quite low probability of suddenly having a seizure. Robots do not think the same way. Any software glitch may cause it to move in an unexpected way. I had one freeze for half a second (unknown reason) while motors were full forward, and it rammed itself into a literal brick wall.

Re: Nvidia partners with LG robotics to build humanoid robots in South Korea

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Post by gacgacgac »

forgotusername6 wrote: post #44
gacgacgac wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have stairs in your house?

Two robots

My kitchen, office, living room, gaming computer, entryway, and bedroom are all separated by sets of stairs.

So that's six robots for me?

Re: Nvidia partners with LG robotics to build humanoid robots in South Korea

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Post by trumpdong »

forgotusername6 wrote: post #46
logicchains wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A robot with enough arm strength to properly clean a stubborn toilet wouldn't be safe around kids.

It just needs the patience to apply and gently scrub with mild chemicals for several hours.

You know what does this better than a humanoid robot? A toilet with a built-in dispenser for mild chemicals! It could do it periodically, or with every flush so that the mild cleaning chemicals are always sitting there. An unsophisticated one made of cheap plastic could be bought for $5 a the grocery store and clip onto the side.
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