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OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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One drive is an insanely poorly implemented solution to a problem nobody really had. For enterprise companies, ones I've worked in at least, they will auto sync the users folder /c/Users/(name) with one drive, but there is some weird alternative they have to set on the windows system to actually use a workspace for the user. So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access fi…

No access to a network that's safe? Do you have a zero day on SSL we should know about?

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

#84

If you start uploading data to your cloud without my clear consent, I already see a very big problem with your product. If you even substitute the directories in my computer (a standard that was untouched for the last 20 years) in a way to force my stuff into your cloud, then there’s a much bigger problem. Managers who approved this should be thrown out of the company because this is clearly how NOT to make a product…

What does this have to do with the article you're responding to which is about OneDrive for Business?

More HN comments, less reddit comments, please.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

#85

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>One drive is an insanely poorly implemented solution to a problem nobody really had. I highly doubt that the need to steal as much data and media from people to train AI was a problem nobody really had.

You are conflating private OneDrive with enterprise Office 365 Sharepoint based solution. Also that came out 10-13 years ago... way before AI. Why are people on this site such midwits?

> Also that came out 10-13 years ago... way before AI.

Do you think AI training and preceding data vacuuming started yesterday? Was there no "Big Data" hype immediately before LLMs took off?

> Why are people on this site such midwits?

Address this question to a mirror.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

#86
post #24

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Data loss and storage is always a challenge, that's why companies will have network drives, network storage that's not strongly coupled with your account acess. OneDrive doesn't solve the problem in a clean way. It adds an extra layer of brittleness.

Network drives mean no local retention and no real good answer for Windows+Mac+Android+iOS clients to remotely access the files. It also doesn't solve sharing those files externally with granular permissions. All of these kinds things need protection against data loss and centralized control+management, not just the user folder alone.

isn't that also the case witf onedrive because it deletes local copies?

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

#87
post #18

One drive is an insanely poorly implemented solution to a problem nobody really had. For enterprise companies, ones I've worked in at least, they will auto sync the users folder /c/Users/(name) with one drive, but there is some weird alternative they have to set on the windows system to actually use a workspace for the user. So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access fi…

I’ve seen a lot of people have issues with git, because this is going on in the background and they don’t realize it. They’ll change branches, then OneDrive sees files are missing, so it starts pulling them back down. It makes a mess. Any new hire we get, we need to make sure to explicitly tell them not to keep their code in a folder managed by OneDrive, but they never listen. They speak up about a month later, compl…

It is irritating how Microsoft markets onedrive as a backup solution, because then people think 'oh, we have onedrive, why do we need another backup solution?', when onedrive is so unsuited to being the working copy of so many different kinds of data.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

#88
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve seen a lot of people have issues with git, because this is going on in the background and they don’t realize it. They’ll change branches, then OneDrive sees files are missing, so it starts pulling them back down. It makes a mess. Any new hire we get, we need to make sure to explicitly tell them not to keep their code in a folder managed by OneDrive, but they never listen. They speak up about a month later, compl…

I keep my code in OneDrive. I probably have hundreds of repos cloned and active. Been going like this since like 2018 or so. I’ve never had problems except for warnings about deleting lots of filed when I git branch or checkout or whatever. I would expect onedrive not to pull down files after a checkout because from a file io, it’s deleting and copying in new files, right?

You're pretty lucky, then. This kind of file sync is a cursed problem in general (in that a truly robust solution is just not possible), but onedrive seems to be particularly bad in terms of reverting local changes, not syncing changes, and generally messing things up, especially when there's a lot of files, and even when there's only one user of the data. (it also makes anything involving writing lots of temporary files even slower, like most software builds).

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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The best thing you can do with an enterprise Onedrive is having long long file and folder names. The moment it exceeds 255 characters, the software application dies. I am ready to hear easier fixes but so far this worked: - Rename the offending folder from the web - Unlink the folder from the user's machine - Delete the existing onedrive folder - Relink and resync The best part is, the web side of onedrive has practi…

You can change that setting in Windows so that it no longer has a 255 character limit.

Yes, you can but then if you have any older software in your system (for company reasons) will not play ball. And it is a workaround, not a permanent solution. Because we still do not have that fabled WinFS so...

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

#90
post #84

If you start uploading data to your cloud without my clear consent, I already see a very big problem with your product. If you even substitute the directories in my computer (a standard that was untouched for the last 20 years) in a way to force my stuff into your cloud, then there’s a much bigger problem. Managers who approved this should be thrown out of the company because this is clearly how NOT to make a product…

What does this have to do with the article you're responding to which is about OneDrive for Business? More HN comments, less reddit comments, please.

He's right. I've had this garbage turns itself on then steal files into the cloud. When you disconnect it your files are suddenly gone and you have no idea why. There's a reason I daily drive Linux.
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