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The Pentagon is running an AI propaganda mill targeting Latin America

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Re: The Pentagon is running an AI propaganda mill targeting Latin America

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applicative wrote: post #70
dm_ wrote: post #41

What I think many of the jaded comments about how "it was ever thus" miss is what it means that American soft power is reduced to AI slop. During the Cold War, the CIA famously funded all sorts of cultural endeavors, but much of the output (if not directly CIA-created, then at least bolstered by the Agency) is still held to have been culturally relevant: abstract expressionism ( https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20…

None of these were significant either, not worth even 1 neuron -- but they did provide a bit of copy for upscale yankee-CIA tinfoil-hat journalism - even books - a few decades later.

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Post by lesuorac »

FooBarWidget wrote: post #61
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Real journalists / content writers have pesky morals and tend to become whistleblowers when they've had enough.

What are you talking about? There are entire groups of renowned "journalists" that turn out to be CIA collaborators. The renowned New York Times admitted they receive approval from the US government. Bellingcat, renowed "independent investigative journalists", turns out to be CIA-funded, and is awfully quiet with their investigations in situations where it does not suit NATO allies' agenda. There's a reason why the p…

And yet people love X which pretty famously during the "Twitter Files" was revealed to also assist US psy-ops.

The public just distrusts large organizations now because those large organizations haven't been effective with their stated missions.

Re: The Pentagon is running an AI propaganda mill targeting Latin America

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JumpCrisscross wrote: post #53
keybored wrote: post #47

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Aren't you a venture capitalist? A left wing one?

> Aren't you a venture capitalist? Pretty much. > A left wing one? Wouldn't say that. I like wealth redistribution and taxation as a tool of both economic empowerment and political equalisation. I do have friends whom I'd consider left wing. I agree with them on many issues, from unionising bars to raising the minimum wage. I disagree with them on others, e.g. regulating everything for the sake of it.

> regulating everything for the sake of it.

Eh, if you're not hiding behind a LLC I can see regulation not being necessary.

Like you want to build a factory and dump the sewage into the river? Fine, but uh you're personally going to prison forever then.

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Post by g8oz »

ben_w wrote: post #23
cess11 wrote: post #17

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Deliberate starvation is more of a capitalist thing. It's not like China or communist parts of India have a big famine problem, while the US and their partners are causing famines in e.g. West Asia right now. Left wing policies actually work pretty well, this is why the US has spent so much resources undermining movements and states trying to implement them, and this is why the Soviet needed nuclear weapons to surviv…

A better example of capitalism doing actual famine would be the Irish Potato Famine, which was concurrent with the writing of the actual Communist Manifesto. Communism has also had famine, famously both the Holodomor in the USSR and the Great Leap Forward in China. The only thing that really seems to end famine, is a deliberate policy of subsidising the overproduction of food.

Some more examples are covered in "Late Victorian Holocausts" by Mike Judge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Victorian_Holocausts

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Post by clear-octopus »

RickJWagner wrote: post #69
yanhangyhy wrote: post #42

If the American system is so good, why does it always need to be promoted in such strange ways? LA people should be so eager to be pro-America

I just left Reddit, where a Cuban that moved to America is hosting an AMA. It’s incredible. The guy seems to be giving brutally real opinions, the good and the bad, and telling his life’s story. Reddit readers ( admitting they’ve never been to Cuba ) try to shout him down and tell him what he should be thinking. It’d be nice to hear more first hand stories like that.

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Post by bpodgursky »

yanhangyhy wrote: post #42

If the American system is so good, why does it always need to be promoted in such strange ways? LA people should be so eager to be pro-America

China is doing propaganda. Russia is doing propaganda. Iran is doing propaganda. That's life, play the game or lose.

This is like sales and marketing, idealists think you can build the perfect product and it will sell itself. It won't. It's an adversarial marketplace and you have to show the world what you did, against people who are trying to tear you down.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

lesuorac wrote: post #84
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Aren't you a venture capitalist? Pretty much. > A left wing one? Wouldn't say that. I like wealth redistribution and taxation as a tool of both economic empowerment and political equalisation. I do have friends whom I'd consider left wing. I agree with them on many issues, from unionising bars to raising the minimum wage. I disagree with them on others, e.g. regulating everything for the sake of it.

> regulating everything for the sake of it. Eh, if you're not hiding behind a LLC I can see regulation not being necessary. Like you want to build a factory and dump the sewage into the river? Fine, but uh you're personally going to prison forever then.

> you want to build a factory and dump the sewage into the river?

The weird thing is this crap gets deregulated while hairdressers get fined for not having the right subchapters of licenses.

Re: The Pentagon is running an AI propaganda mill targeting Latin America

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Post by simbosambo »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #89
lesuorac wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> regulating everything for the sake of it. Eh, if you're not hiding behind a LLC I can see regulation not being necessary. Like you want to build a factory and dump the sewage into the river? Fine, but uh you're personally going to prison forever then.

> you want to build a factory and dump the sewage into the river? The weird thing is this crap gets deregulated while hairdressers get fined for not having the right subchapters of licenses.

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