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Iran Shock Jolts Asia and Europe to Speed Up Energy Transition

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Re: Iran Shock Jolts Asia and Europe to Speed Up Energy Transition

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very jealous of how cheap AUS solar prices are. < $1 AUD per watt after rebate

Don't be jealous of our peak power price though: $0.56/kWh (I have a battery though, so I rarely pay full tote - which is one of the reasons I got a battery)

Not jealous but that’s no worse than much of California (assuming those were USD you quoted, not AUD).

Re: Iran Shock Jolts Asia and Europe to Speed Up Energy Transition

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Oceania too: Australia installed 442 MW of residential solar and 2.5 GWh of residential batteries in the month of April alone . Both numbers are partly juiced by changes to a rebate program from May, but the overall trend remains explosive growth. https://reneweconomy.com.au/households-still-going-big-on-so...

Yep, India installed 4 GWh of solar in just the month of April as well.

Re: Iran Shock Jolts Asia and Europe to Speed Up Energy Transition

#83

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very jealous of how cheap AUS solar prices are. < $1 AUD per watt after rebate

We pay like 30 cents in USD per kw.

Depends on where you are in the US. I pay 11 cents during peak and 7 cents during off hours.

Re: Iran Shock Jolts Asia and Europe to Speed Up Energy Transition

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Well apparently over 95% of that 45 years of preparing has been obliterated, their currency is in free fall, 2M people have become unemployed over there in the last few months, and a handful of idiots are playing a game of chicken with global implications. What a mess.

I mean, their planning has been very effective. It's a decentralized strategy that plays to their strengths; it doesn't take a lot to hold the strait closed, and they can pressure everyone in the region very easily by attacking infrastructure (oil, but also desalinization plants). Their planning is so good it's turned this into the largest strategic embarrassment in the last... 80 years?

Conversely, Tehran is losing almost half a billion dollars a day. Nobody wins this stupid thing.

Re: Iran Shock Jolts Asia and Europe to Speed Up Energy Transition

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I'm assuming that China, with its industrial power and leadership position to produce a bunch of green energy components (like solar panels), is well-positioned to benefit from this.

They make like 95% of the solar cells.

Re: Iran Shock Jolts Asia and Europe to Speed Up Energy Transition

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Hormuz being closed hurts Iran way more than it does the US. It's shocking that they're persisting on this strategy. That's the problem with authoritarians though: they'd rather rule over rubble than be an average citizen in a prosperous society.

Maybe as a percentage of their economy, but not in absolute dollars.

Iran’s doing orders of magnitude more absolute economic damage to the west and its allies than vice versa.

Even the drone strikes followed this math: The patriots were intercepting drones that cost 1% as much as the interceptor.

As far as I can tell, Iran has won every tactical and strategic engagement so far in this war.

Re: Iran Shock Jolts Asia and Europe to Speed Up Energy Transition

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Ok, I have to comment about the chart on oil prices that shows a massive rise from 2020 to 2022, which the article blames on the Russian invasion of Ukraine, even though that didn't happen until early 2022 and the spike began 2 years earlier. That's just jouranlistic misconduct. Let me tell you what actually happened because, for some reason, nobody actually talks about it. First, some context: 1. OPEC/OPEC+ meet eve…

I’ll just add that from 2016-2020, Trump perpetuated a zero interest rate policy despite the economy booming.

Macroeconomics 101 says this will cause inflation on a few year delay, which is what happened, and Biden was also blamed for that.

Re: Iran Shock Jolts Asia and Europe to Speed Up Energy Transition

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, their planning has been very effective. It's a decentralized strategy that plays to their strengths; it doesn't take a lot to hold the strait closed, and they can pressure everyone in the region very easily by attacking infrastructure (oil, but also desalinization plants). Their planning is so good it's turned this into the largest strategic embarrassment in the last... 80 years?

Conversely, Tehran is losing almost half a billion dollars a day. Nobody wins this stupid thing.

Their military is at something like 66% the missile/drone capacity it was at when the war started, and the US is what? Out of patriots?

They also now know they will beat the US in an all out conflict, which was unthinkable before this war started.

The main loss seems to be that with the Iranian / US supply lines into Ukraine slowing down, Ukraine has been able to build a domestic military drone complex that’s arguably more advanced than Iran’s.

Re: Iran Shock Jolts Asia and Europe to Speed Up Energy Transition

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Far left will continue to rule in Europe.

I can't think of any European government that is far left? I am not familiar with all of them of course, so happy to be proven wrong.

I can't think of any European party that is far right and have any chance in elections.

Re: Iran Shock Jolts Asia and Europe to Speed Up Energy Transition

#90
post #87
post #39

Ok, I have to comment about the chart on oil prices that shows a massive rise from 2020 to 2022, which the article blames on the Russian invasion of Ukraine, even though that didn't happen until early 2022 and the spike began 2 years earlier. That's just jouranlistic misconduct. Let me tell you what actually happened because, for some reason, nobody actually talks about it. First, some context: 1. OPEC/OPEC+ meet eve…

I’ll just add that from 2016-2020, Trump perpetuated a zero interest rate policy despite the economy booming. Macroeconomics 101 says this will cause inflation on a few year delay, which is what happened, and Biden was also blamed for that.

ZIRP (also, Quantitative Easing or QE) was the policy since 2008. Rates actually rose in the first Trump admin [1] so this isn't quite as causative as you suggest. Other things did happen that contributed to the inflation shock of 2020. This goes back to the Obama admin too, specifically:

1. After the OPEC oil shock of 1973, the US banned crude oil exports (in 1974 I believe);

2. In the early 2010s, hydraulic fracturing ("fracking") was invented, which created the US oil boom in the Permian Basin (from west Texas up to the Dakotas). Almost all oil wells in the last 10-15 years have been fracked. This was a massive capex outlay by oil companies at the time. This is important;

3. Obama, facing a hostile Congress in 2015, wanted solar and wind subsidies so he made a deal with Congress that included lifting the 1974 crude oil export ban. Oil production quickly went up and ever since we've been exporting ~3Mbpd of crude oil, which is essentially excess demand, and this is how the US became the largest single oil producer in the world;

4. OPEC but really Saudi Arabia in particular crashed the oil market in 2015-2016. There are two competing theories on why they did this. A lot of people think it was to kill the frackers. I don't think this makes sense. It was years after fracking came about. I think it was to punisht he US for becoming a crude oil exporter. And it worked. Roughly half of oil producers and services companies went bust [2];

5. When oil prices are low, producers will generally suspend production until prices increase because they're selling at a loss. They'll layoff staff and come back when prices improve. So this is self-correcting. But oil companies had to keep selling because of their massive debt;

6. Because of (5), oil inventories exploded and when Trump took office in 2017, oil experts believed that oil prices would remain low because of persistently high crue oil inventories [3];

7. Trump pulled out from the JCPOA in 2018. To counter expected Iranian sanctions, Trump got OPEC to increase production [4];

8. In October 2018, Saudi agents, allegedly on the orders from MBS, killed Saudi citizen and US permanent resident Jamal Khashoggi in a Saudi embassy in Istanbul. I actually believe this is relevant to what happened subsequently; and

9. In November 2018, Trump granted 8 waivers to Iranian oil exporters to continue exporting [5]. This crashed the oil markets [6] and basically screwed over OPEC. But I think MBS had to eat it because of the Khashoggi fallout.

So come 2020, it is my belief that when Donald "Art of the Deal" Trump got MBS to cut oil production and then MBS later refused to increase production (to both Trump and Biden), it was payback for 2018.

So I don't think there's any causation between ZIRP and the inflation shock. It was a combination of two things: the oil price shock and the pandemic became the perfect environment for companies to raise prices, something many believed they'd get punished for prior. This is the era when dynamic pricing really took off.

[1]: https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-oil-producers-pac...

[2]: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FEDFUNDS

[3]: https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=29532

[4]: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/22/opec-ministers-strike-deal-o...

[5]: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/02/trump-will-grant-8-waivers-t...

[6]: https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/the-great-oil-crash-of-...

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