Earlier quoted context omitted.
What are you quoting?
I assume an imaginary but very real and typical climate change denier.
> an imaginary but very real
Idk, quoting straw men isn’t a good-faith way of arguing.
Mornings and nights no longer exist at 47C: A day in the hottest place in India
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#82What I find bizarre is the word "siesta" doesn't appear in this article. People have been working around the hot summer hours in Southern Europe for centuries. Until recent times it was part of the culture.
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Writing about "the wealthy" on a site like HN is always interesting. Who do you mean? The vast majority of HN commenters are 10%ers and very many are 1%ers. But there's always someone richer to complain about.
HN loves to nit-pick about what "the wealthy" actually means, but in most contexts, when someone complains "the wealthy" did this or "the wealthy" did that, what they mean are a very, very tiny number of people who are not on HN, not in anyone on HN's family, and not intimately known by anyone on HN. When someone says "the wealthy" are getting rich to everyone's detriment, they are almost never talking about the doct…
Broadly speaking, when anyone says the rich or the wealthy, they mean people richer than themselves. I’ve seen everyone from line workers to multimillionaires do it.
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#84"But global warming is a hoax. And even if it wasn't it's not our fault. People couldn't be the cause. And even if it is our fault there's nothing we could do about it." We have broken our world for the greed of a few. History will not be kind to us.
"Drill, baby, drill!"
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#85Why is there a billion people in India if these conditions exist? It has less space than USA and almost triple the population. Its never made sense to me why the birthrate was so high in countries with deadly living conditions, meanwhile the population in the United States with excellent conditions is declining.
> Why is there a billion people in India if these conditions exist? Not to be crude, but this should be obvious. Similar to many poor areas anywhere in the world, but what else do you do all day hiding indoors (due to violence, poverty, et al) for entertainment, with very limited income? Physical intimacy is fun. It's also partly because the society is agrarian by population, culture, and education. This is born out…
Pulp's Common People had a line for me that summed up the working-class existence:
# And you dance and drink and screw. Because there's nothing else to do.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
I assume an imaginary but very real and typical climate change denier.
> an imaginary but very real Idk, quoting straw men isn’t a good-faith way of arguing.
Ironic, since the quote is not an argument. It's a summary of some rationale given to avoid action.
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Humanity is a blip in Earth's history. We'll be a historical curiosity to whatever comes next just like the dinosaurs are to us.
History will forget effectively all of us, so that’s comforting.
I hope some record of us stays so whoever comes next would be able to learn from our stupidity.
Yeah, and eternal shame is all we deserve.
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#88AI (Compute/GPU) has always been first citizen on this planet. Cradle to Grave in AC environment. Humans, yeah, they'll live in the heat. Or not.
We must spend trillions of dollars on AI as if we are going to be extinct. Meanwhile, nobody has any money for massively increasing clean energy, which is possible now, just deploy solar (dirt cheap) everywhere, use EVs to dump excess production during the day.
Datacenters are subsidized everywhere (just like fossil fuels), and they get the best and first cuts of everything. Google is building a mega DC in Vizag, India, with massive incentives from Govt.
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I was also going to mention wet bulb temperatures as well. As horrible as the conditions described in the article is, it describes a very dry heat. Which means sweating and water can still help. The really scary thing will be when the wet bulb temperature goes above 35 degrees, and humans can only survive with AC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature
For what it's worth they can live under ground [1][2], even build cities but they would have had to start that project some time ago. Before someone says it, yeah not everywhere and its not for everyone but in enough places and for enough people that we can adapt to heat and at least survive as a civilization. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coober_Pedy [2] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsYmw6FtSIA Wyoming Tr…
Civilizations have made underground cities for quite some time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derinkuyu_underground_city
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#90Reminds me of the opening to "Ministry for the Future" by Kim Stanley Robinson. In that book, a wet bulb event (high humidity and high temp) in India pushes infrastructure past the breaking point, the grid goes down, AC systems still running on generators are overloaded and overcrowded and fail, the water temp goes over body temp, and millions die. The positive cultural/societal reaction to the disaster strained my s…
I don't believe I have heard of KSR before, but I have been telling my friends that an incident like this is in our (the world's) future.
It is feeling more and more imminent with each passing year.
And then there will be cries of nobody saw this coming.