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U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

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Re: U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

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Post by Henchman21 »

thefz wrote: post #64
avaer wrote: post #3

It's interesting to have a conversation with people over politics these days, sometimes it's like people don't live in the same reality anymore. It's probably not far from the truth. To a first approximation, nothing is verified, people see a number on social media as a proxy for accuracy. Even if it's completely wrong, it doesn't matter because you're among friends. Memes let insane ideas spread like a virus, the on…

Yet all you hear in this forum are voices against regulation for the platforms.

This forum is dominated by AI bots.

Re: U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

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Post by Dig1t »

thefz wrote: post #64
avaer wrote: post #3

It's interesting to have a conversation with people over politics these days, sometimes it's like people don't live in the same reality anymore. It's probably not far from the truth. To a first approximation, nothing is verified, people see a number on social media as a proxy for accuracy. Even if it's completely wrong, it doesn't matter because you're among friends. Memes let insane ideas spread like a virus, the on…

Yet all you hear in this forum are voices against regulation for the platforms.

It's mostly just that we are worried that anyone seeking to regulate the platforms is mostly just seeking to control said platforms and get them to spread their version of the truth. Something we already see with CNN, NBC, Fox News, etc.

Re: U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

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Post by Dig1t »

tstrimple wrote: post #75
avaer wrote: post #3

It's interesting to have a conversation with people over politics these days, sometimes it's like people don't live in the same reality anymore. It's probably not far from the truth. To a first approximation, nothing is verified, people see a number on social media as a proxy for accuracy. Even if it's completely wrong, it doesn't matter because you're among friends. Memes let insane ideas spread like a virus, the on…

We've seen what it means for elections. Donald Trump was elected while claiming "Haitians are eating your pets and dogs" among tons of other absolutely insane things. The conservative party fought a war against education and they won resoundingly. The US is a deeply stupid and ignorant and, now especially, corrupt country.

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Re: U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

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Post by reddozen »

card_zero wrote: post #69
reddozen wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have never voted and never will. Thank you for putting the reason at the top to disregard the rest of your post-hoc justification. Your prescriptions literally don't matter because you will never engage with the political system.

In general, people's ideas matter regardless of what they do.

Maybe, in general. But in the realm of American democracy, the literal discussion at hand, their actions mean their voice matters absolutely none.

Re: U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

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Post by reddozen »

himata4113 wrote: post #44
reddozen wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have never voted and never will. Thank you for putting the reason at the top to disregard the rest of your post-hoc justification. Your prescriptions literally don't matter because you will never engage with the political system.

I don't vote because I am uneducated enough in local politics to do so I would only be corrupting the vote and dilluting votes that are that of people who did their research. This is an opinionated take, but voting just to vote is pointless and does more harm than good. I guess I should have positioned that at the end instead of making that the opening statement.

> I don't vote because I am uneducated enough in local politics to do so I would only be corrupting the vote and dilluting votes that are that of people who did their research.

I'm going to tell you a secret it doesn't tell you on the ballot: You don't have to fill in all the bubbles like you're being graded in middle school. You can chose to only vote for things you are opinionated on.

Just kidding, every ballot already explains this. Next time just admit you're lazy to cast a ballot and lead with that. Its the same outcome, no reason for anyone to read the next 10 paragraphs.

Re: U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

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Post by tstrimple »

Dig1t wrote: post #83
tstrimple wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've seen what it means for elections. Donald Trump was elected while claiming "Haitians are eating your pets and dogs" among tons of other absolutely insane things. The conservative party fought a war against education and they won resoundingly. The US is a deeply stupid and ignorant and, now especially, corrupt country.

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You’ve got to lay off of right wing media. It’s warped your brain. None of that is true.

Re: U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

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Post by customguy »

stinkbeetle wrote: post #73
customguy wrote: post #39

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As if this polarization does anything but atomize and disenfranchise people even further. As if people cannot communicate and work together with people who aren't in the exact same cult as them are more than LARPing slaves spitting on their own equipment that shows cartoons of the other during their 24/7 of hate. As if the people and companies whose fortunes are exploding further are "gnashing their teeth". As if peo…

You appear to be unhinged. After you calm down, I would be happy to overlook this thing you have written here and pretend it never happened if you would like to attempt a more rational conversation about my previous comment.

Reading emotions into text because you totally can parse and refute what I wrote. It's fine.

Re: U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

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Post by xtiansimon »

OkayPhysicist wrote: post #78
xtiansimon wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently watched a film about Umberto Eco, Umberto Eco: A Library of the World (2022). (It has an eerie sense of “last words” from the “maestro” of letters as the film was produced after his death). I’m therefore unsure who to credit with the assemblage or arching themes. Nevertheless, one is about the internet. I perceived in his words a duality—-the internet is “limitless memory” as well as “lost memory”. And not…

IMO, the interconnection of the internet is heavily to blame for how divisive politics have gotten, but I offer a different method of action: Prior to the internet, most people only regularly interacted with people in a relatively limited cultural band. When venturing out of that cultural band, you largely came across people interacting on heightened levels of good behavior, because of in-person hospitality norms. We…

I need to contemplate this notion the internet removed the veil of presumed good character.

Is this something you’ve read about? Is there a general consensus in some circles the more we learn, the less we like each other?

I think of social media in some ways like costume; I’m putting on the social costume of the group i want to belong to. Opposed to how you might address someone at the grocery store or fellow neighbor in a chance encounter. Then it’s the relationship of sharing mundane life together with the politeness or grace (dignity?) you afford to people when you meet them in person.

The classic advertising gambit has the Goth helping the Soccer Mom with her groceries to the car. Under the hairspray and makeup is the child who has a notion of helping mom, and is therefore only wearing a costume (which, in my networked idea, becomes another node we all already expect and a condition that seems to paralyze teenagers).

Re: U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

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Post by [deleted] »

Dig1t wrote: post #83
tstrimple wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've seen what it means for elections. Donald Trump was elected while claiming "Haitians are eating your pets and dogs" among tons of other absolutely insane things. The conservative party fought a war against education and they won resoundingly. The US is a deeply stupid and ignorant and, now especially, corrupt country.

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Re: U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

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Post by Dig1t »

tstrimple wrote: post #86
Dig1t wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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You’ve got to lay off of right wing media. It’s warped your brain. None of that is true.

NBC News:

>Supreme Court allows Biden administration to remove border razor wire

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK3uo7MOZvU

Local Dallas News:

>Biden Used Forklifts To Remove Razor Wire, Open The Border & Allow Millions To Enter

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDqbVgX5TZA

CBS Miami:

>Arizona To Remove Makeshift Border Wall After Lawsuit From Biden Administration

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7nEW1Pqvd8

I can link you hundreds more videos, but I think anyone on this site is capable of doing a basic search to see the evidence themselves.

Heck even Dr Phil went to the border to show what was happening first hand:

>Dr. Phil: The Border Crisis | The Government Is Failing At Border Security | Dr. Phil Primetime

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7srHLa7lR_k

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