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Re: The dangerous delusion of modern warfare

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Post by orwin » Sun, May 31, 2026, 11:40 PM UTC

like_any_other wrote: post #62

orwin wrote: post #48

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> Trump attacked Iran because Israel was going to attack Iran When Israel attacked Iran in 2025, Iran was very, very clear that they did not consider it an attack from the US and did not retaliate against US assets. The US choose to support israel with intel and weapons, and Iran still didn't strike at US interests. Then the US joined forces with israel to push for bigger concessions from Iran just before the ceasefi…

Oh I'm not saying Israel's decision to attack Iran forced the US to join in on strategic or self-defense grounds. I'm saying it forced them because the US does whatever Israel tells them. That is why both US lead negotiators with Iran are Jewish [1], why US congressmen have Israeli flags outside their offices [2], why Nancy Pelosi said the #1 priority in the Capitol is Israel [3], why Netanyahu gets 3 straight minute…

Yes of course, the party in power in the US have to get the evangelicals in their pocket, and the best way to do it is to back up Zionism (as they believe that Jesus will come back once Jews will be in control of Israel). Still, this is entirely self-inflicted.

Re: The dangerous delusion of modern warfare

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Post by nkrisc » Mon, Jun 01, 2026, 11:34 AM UTC

nfkhd67 wrote: post #50

nkrisc wrote: post #14

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It will be interesting (and scary) to see weapons technology developed in near real time for the conflict that is actually happening, as opposed to the one you thought would happen 15 years ago.

The universe already created microbes. Check out how fast they can evolve. The chimp troupe is full of itself. Its intelligence and "innovations" are highly overated. Covid brought the whole world to its knees. No intelligence or drones required. As Lynn Margulis famously said - we are not the main show.

Interesting but I fail to see how that’s relevant to a discussion about man made weapons.

Re: The dangerous delusion of modern warfare

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Post by pingou » Mon, Jun 01, 2026, 11:49 AM UTC

spiderfarmer wrote: post #53

pingou wrote: post #27

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Not saying this is a smart plan, but how is it far more stupid than invading Iran which is basically impossible unless you are ready for tens or hundred of thousands of casualties among your own citizens?

What about not ending a thoroughly negotiated JCPOA just because it was one of Obama’s achievements? Who will ever trust the US enough to negotiate in earnest?

For the third time I never said it was a good plan.

Re: The dangerous delusion of modern warfare

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Post by lukan » Mon, Jun 01, 2026, 6:40 PM UTC

mopsi wrote: post #80

lukan wrote: post #79

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"Soldatov argued that decision makers in Moscow had approached the invasion as a police operation, not a military campaign, because they believed the Ukrainians would actually welcome Russian forces." " a Moscow FSB agent once tried to convince him not to investigate the October 2002 Moscow theater hostage siege" Ok, so the source is one russian journalist who was known at least since 2002 to the FSB as someone to ke…

Andrei Soldatov is not merely "one russian journalist". Since 2000, he has been operating agentura.ru, which publishes information about Russian security services. He is well-connected and widely considered one of the most serious independent experts on the Russian security apparatus.

But he is not in russia anymore since a while. I doubt his ability to get insights into the highest ranks of security let alone Putin's head himself.

Re: The dangerous delusion of modern warfare

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Post by kergonath » Tue, Jun 02, 2026, 11:28 AM UTC

like_any_other wrote: post #68

jmye wrote: post #67

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Conflating “Jewish” with “loves and supports Netanyahu” is a bald-faced antisemitic trope. Pretending Kushner’s bullshit has anything to do with being a Jew and not being willing to sell anyone or anything for a dollar is just silly. The pro-Israel group is just as likely, maybe moreso given the current administration and the people like Thiel running it, to be apocalyptic Christians, trying to bring on their own idi…

> Conflating “Jewish” with “loves and supports Netanyahu” is a bald-faced antisemitic trope. I guess "Jewish has nothing to do with support for the Jewish state" would have sounded too silly, so you used Netanyahu instead. Luckily we have opinion polls to prove the "trope" true: https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/646214/suppo... The group with the most sympathy for Israel, and least for Palestine, is, un…

> I guess "Jewish has nothing to do with support for the Jewish state" would have sounded too silly

It is not silly and it is true. In the same way as many Muslims don’t want to live in a theocracy and many Christians are not fundamentalists. Being a Jew, a Sionist, supporting the principle of Israel, and supporting its current apartheid iteration are all very different things.