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Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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Post by Underphil »

asveikau wrote: post #49
nikcub wrote: post #14

I believe the urgent deprecation timeline here may be related to ai labs using offline licensed Office in agents as part of workflows and Office integration. Microsoft wants _each_ agent instance to be a separate license[0] There was always a probability that Microsoft were going to funnel offline users into O365 at some point - but I imagined that to take place over months / years not weeks and days. Buying a single…

Is it me or are people too eager to "one track mind" everything into AI? If I had said thirty years ago that Microsoft would remote disable old copies of Office asking you to upgrade, literally no one would be surprised. This is standard MO for Microsoft, even in a world without AI.

This is a bizarrely revisionist take. Perhaps you weren't around at the time but that was not standard MO in the slightest. Obviously they were incredibly scummy in other ways, but that was not one of them.

//Edit : I see from another comment that you say you worked there in the 2000s. Inclined to believe you, but having worked in the industry since the mid-90s I'm absolutely confident the general sentiment about Microsoft was not yet hatred. That came later.

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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Post by ok_computer »

I’ve always bought a fresh perpetual license to office home and student with every new computer since 2005. That is four mac computers total and I assume ~$600 in office licenses over 21 years. Not a ton of money but not zero.

My resume is typeset in LaTeX and I don’t make many slide decks for personal use. I figure I can get a decent Tex template. I don’t use excel much anymore.

For my next mac I’ll probably just skip Office. I do not want a software subscription.

I also usually buy Sublime text + Merge and Cubase audio, USB overdrive, Graphana for svgs, maybe a few other licenses. I will buy and do not pirate software, devs and companies deserve compensation for their work. I also do not rent software. Though I do a small yearly donation ($50) to the Python software foundation because that language got me out of hands-on labor in labs.

I don’t care about agents at home. If Microsoft abandons a staple software package that has been a standard in personal computing since the 90’s then I’m only their customer at work lol.

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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Post by bastawhiz »

kstrauser wrote: post #71
bastawhiz wrote: post #22

Interesting that the deadline is checks notes one day before the Nightmare deadline. Definitely not a coincidence, right?

What’s the Nightmare deadline? I’m out of the loop on Microsoft news.

Microsoft mistreated a security researcher, the researcher publicly dumped a horde of Microsoft zero days, Microsoft was decidedly miffed, the researcher says they'll "shatter Microsoft's bones" on July 14.

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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Post by chorizo »

drnick1 wrote: post #44

Just use LibreOffice or other better tools like TeX instead of a WYSIWYG editor. With AI it is easier than ever to port existing documents, even if you have to OCR the original.

This is software I paid for specifically because I didn’t want a subscription. If I wanted to use Libreoffice instead, I would have.

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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Post by Suppafly »

elzbardico wrote: post #65
asveikau wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it me or are people too eager to "one track mind" everything into AI? If I had said thirty years ago that Microsoft would remote disable old copies of Office asking you to upgrade, literally no one would be surprised. This is standard MO for Microsoft, even in a world without AI.

No. It was not normal. I knew people who still had their original office 97 media installing it on windows 10, like a few years ago.

This, I've used old versions that I got as part of a site license for employees deal for years.

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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Post by Suppafly »

ok_computer wrote: post #85

I’ve always bought a fresh perpetual license to office home and student with every new computer since 2005. That is four mac computers total and I assume ~$600 in office licenses over 21 years. Not a ton of money but not zero. My resume is typeset in LaTeX and I don’t make many slide decks for personal use. I figure I can get a decent Tex template. I don’t use excel much anymore. For my next mac I’ll probably just sk…

>I’ve always bought a fresh perpetual license to office home and student with every new computer since 2005.

Why? Just to upgrade or what?

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