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Re: Rsync 3.4.3 has hundreds of Claude commits

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Post by foldr »

CursedSilicon wrote: post #5

I saw an exceptionally long and thoughtful post on Mastodon from "Space Hobo" https://teh.entar.net/@spacehobo that definitely deserves reprinting here ----- I actually worked at the same place as Andrew Tridgell, over a quarter-century ago. I got to know a few of the OzLabs folks during their immediate post-IBM years, and always had the highest respect for them in that way where you feel acute impostor syndrome when…

>I write in the past tense because I haven't crossed paths with [Andrew Tridgell] in two decades

But err, don't let that stop you, Space Hobo! I'm not sure how anyone is taking this Mastodon post seriously. The author barely knows Tridgell, but is supposedly 'concerned' because he hasn't posted to his local LUG mailing list for a few years. Isn't this the logic of the terminally online?

I notice that Space Hobo has a lot of posts warning about the dangers of AI slop. Given the rate at which they're able to produce copious quantities of their own artisanal variety, I can't imagine they have much to fear.

Re: Rsync 3.4.3 has hundreds of Claude commits

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Post by cowboylowrez »

einpoklum wrote: post #16

Oh, no :-( I was hoping that at least some solid bedrock of stadalone command-line tools would withstand the deluge of AI slop. Will we need to start to label programs with a "written by humans" sticker? :-(

I'm thinking this will be a natural progression because part of the "AI slop deluge" are now real bug reports generated by these AIs. I'm glad for this noise around the regression as so many more folks are now aware of this issue.

Re: Rsync 3.4.3 has hundreds of Claude commits

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Post by vogon_laureate »

b65e8bee43c2ed0 wrote: post #78
fooker wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah this is how software development works now, no matter how much anyone wants to disagree with it. The technology is here, you can't put it back in the box. If your tool has AI agents trying to find exploits 24/7, you'll need something comparable. It is worth figuring out the new science of software engineering to get it right. I suspect we are going to find plenty of new techniques that make this sort of developm…

no, no, no. if we all stomp our feet and kvetch really loud, a Hawaii judge will declare AI illegal and order a global moratorium. all trillion dollar companies will immediately cease all AI activities, and then UN death squads will go door-to-door confiscating assault GPUs from the chuds.

Yeah but what are the downsides?

Re: Rsync 3.4.3 has hundreds of Claude commits

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Post by em-bee »

sph wrote: post #67
em-bee wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

or more generously, replace lazy with tired. even if you have all the intention of reading all the code in detail, when you are tired you are less attentive. finally, reading code can never achieve the same detailed understanding that you would get from writing it. reading anything in general can't achieve the same understanding as writing. our brain tries to optimize. you see something familiar, you skip over it bec…

At what point it’s just easier to do the whole thing yourself, perhaps prompting AI to give you guidelines and which whom to discuss the design, but never using it to code? But then again, the day one is lazy or tired, one will choose the shortcut of having the machine just write the code.

well yes, that why i concluded that at this point using AI to help me is just not worth it. i'll wait until the reliability goes up and the level of frustration goes down.

for myself i don't even want to use it to learn because i a afraid of being told things that are false or don't exist. i already had that experience, spending hours trying to figure out why my code wasn't working until i realized that the AI told me to use a property or function that didn't exist. i hate wasting time and effort like that.

Re: Rsync 3.4.3 has hundreds of Claude commits

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Post by fooker »

b65e8bee43c2ed0 wrote: post #78
fooker wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah this is how software development works now, no matter how much anyone wants to disagree with it. The technology is here, you can't put it back in the box. If your tool has AI agents trying to find exploits 24/7, you'll need something comparable. It is worth figuring out the new science of software engineering to get it right. I suspect we are going to find plenty of new techniques that make this sort of developm…

no, no, no. if we all stomp our feet and kvetch really loud, a Hawaii judge will declare AI illegal and order a global moratorium. all trillion dollar companies will immediately cease all AI activities, and then UN death squads will go door-to-door confiscating assault GPUs from the chuds.

This is almost exactly how we have limited GPUs that do double precision floating point with decent performance from being exported.
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