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Re: Naphtha shortages in Japan

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Post by dnnddidiej »

ssl-3 wrote: post #46
dnnddidiej wrote: post #41

They had a chance to embrace the black/white medium for somethink striking and attention grabbing but looks like a bad photocopy of the original packaging.

Sure. They could have even taken cues from Google's Material Design, which emphasizes monochromaticity. But Material Design is such boring dredge at this point that I think I actually prefer the lazy photocopy style that is shown instead. :)

Oh no not Material Design.

One idea is if they had a monocrome design from say the 50's use that. Or get a true artist to come up with something.

Re: Naphtha shortages in Japan

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Post by eloisant »

deepsun wrote: post #76
emodendroket wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't say the present strategy worked a lot better so maybe the whole world had a point.

Hard to say at this point. Imagine in 50 years historians would write like "but crazy regimes kept developing nuclear weapons to exterminat nations they don't like, and the whole world just kept watching doing nothing until it was too late".

The world was not "just watching doing nothing", there was a Iran nuclear deal that made sure they didn't get nuclear weapons.

Re: Naphtha shortages in Japan

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Post by tenderfault »

I don't know Calbee snacks. We grew up with different chemicals in this area.

BUT. I must say, the packaging looks so much better in black and white.

It makes me think it's an honest product, whatever that means. Good feeling. Put your name on it, black on white. Sell it.

Re: Naphtha shortages in Japan

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Post by netsharc »

thrownthatway wrote: post #53
emodendroket wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the dialysis supply shortage may be less of a charming quirk than the potato chip bags.

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And the genius move was to upset him without an exit strategy?

If your mom's life was in the hands of some thug, going in trying to beat him up, and then failing to win, pissing him off, is not a clever move...

"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle." - Sun Tzu, Art of War

Maybe Trump's follow-up to the Art of the Deal should be "The New Art of War". (Although I just realize now that the title of that book most likely because "Art of War" was a very popular book for business strategy in the 80's.

Re: Naphtha shortages in Japan

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Post by RobotToaster »

deepsun wrote: post #76
emodendroket wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't say the present strategy worked a lot better so maybe the whole world had a point.

Hard to say at this point. Imagine in 50 years historians would write like "but crazy regimes kept developing nuclear weapons to exterminat nations they don't like, and the whole world just kept watching doing nothing until it was too late".

We already watched while the crazy Zionist regime developed nuclear weapons.

Re: Naphtha shortages in Japan

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Post by netsharc »

deepsun wrote: post #76
emodendroket wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't say the present strategy worked a lot better so maybe the whole world had a point.

Hard to say at this point. Imagine in 50 years historians would write like "but crazy regimes kept developing nuclear weapons to exterminat nations they don't like, and the whole world just kept watching doing nothing until it was too late".

Yeah, it's not very comfortable having a tiny-penis-syndrome's and alcoholic wife beater's fingers on the nuclear launch button...

Re: Naphtha shortages in Japan

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Post by numpad0 »

johnea wrote: post #3

After studying Japanese language and culture for the last 15 years, and spending about 6 months there in total, I would say they have a massive over-packaging problem in general. I've never seen a place throw away more plastics than in Japan. If the current oil situation forces a reworking of this system, I'd say all in all, that's an upside.

The actual canned response to this is [1] and humidity. Daily levels of humidity in East/Southeast Asia is whole another level from US/EU(or vice versa).

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glico_Morinaga_case

Re: Naphtha shortages in Japan

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Post by sfifs »

pibaker wrote: post #28
jnakano89 wrote: post #15

Buried near the end: Nisshin Seifun Welna stopped printing cooking time on their spaghetti packaging tape. There's a Japanese consumer somewhere squinting at the package trying to remember if it was 8 mins or 10 mins. This is what "globalized supply chain" looks like up close.

What is the alternative to imported fossil fuel product for a country like Japan?

Given their precarious domestic supply situation, it's been surprising they haven't chosen to lead the world on electrification of transport. China had much the same equation and have clearly gone through other way. In my recent visit, I was told in big cities buying a gasoline powdered vehicle takes months or years in permits but an electric vehicle can be bought instantly.

Re: Naphtha shortages in Japan

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Post by snayan »

thrownthatway wrote: post #59
emodendroket wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't say the present strategy worked a lot better so maybe the whole world had a point.

I never made that argument. I just tend to thing bullies should be crushed rather than appeased.

So, what's your proposal for dealing with Trump then? The world waits with bated breath...
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