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While $500k 90m movie done in two weeks is an accomplishment, looking at the trailer it's very dubious to me on the quality of it. Plot, characters, audio - everything screams "I've already seen this somewhere", there's no substance here, at least for me. And while computer visuals are nice, it's nowhere "Love Sex Robots" quality where they're driven by computer graphics as well.

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post #11

While $500k 90m movie done in two weeks is an accomplishment, looking at the trailer it's very dubious to me on the quality of it. Plot, characters, audio - everything screams "I've already seen this somewhere", there's no substance here, at least for me. And while computer visuals are nice, it's nowhere "Love Sex Robots" quality where they're driven by computer graphics as well.

This needs to be treated like LLMs, it's obvious that those flaws will be "fixed", we must already assume that this 90m movie will suddenly have the graphics and consistency of a marvel movie, soon enough, it's not like we will not have Kling 7 available in a few years.

Last year many developers were saying that it produces slop and so-on which is genuinely annoying when we know it's months/years to be GUARANTEED to be solved, as theory already proves we can go way further with models (theory means practice eventually), so we must not talk about "now" as in 1 week near but what it will be, as if it's already there imo. Even more annoying about the image gen AI, it's OBVIOUS that it will reach perfect accuracy (at least for human eye), as if we will just throw TRILLIONS of investment by the window and just stop here, nope, this will reach camera level, runtime, instantly rendered.

Else for the job loss, it's like the moment we realize that it can automate 99% of white collar jobs, we would suddenly be surprised when Opus 10 can do it? We shouldn't, we KNOW there will be Opus 10 that reach 99.9% in all benchmarks, like we know we will have Opus equivalent models running on our phones.

I won't be surprised when I see Opus 4.8 equivalent performance running on a 10B model, as this is just logical, I start to kinda hate it that we all act "surprised" with new models every few months as if the science behind it all changed suddenly, no... we just start developing what science is backing up already.

So obviously, music, video, writing... will be produced at a much higher level than humans, soon enough, there is no ceiling with AIs, humans are pretty limited.

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If you are going to fake being director and fake making a film, why not fake release it?

What part of the directing and making is fake? Does the film not exist? Was it not made by a team creating and sewing clips together under the direction of someone?

That’s not directing dude. No more than me prompting makes me an artist.

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> Higgsfield, a San Francisco startup valued at $1.3 billion.. I don't think these are filmmakers. They aren't here for the art, they're here to find product market fit and, increase revenue, and raise another round at higher valuation.

Sounds like none of the largest blockbuster films were made by filmmakers.

False equivalence. A large studio production still retains the voice and editorial oversight of its director, which is why you can differentiate between films by their directors. There are undoubtedly many filmmakers who collaborate on such productions. Whether or not you believe such projects produce good work, you cannot deny the people involved are artists.

This company is not that. They're a venture backed silicon valley startup. Not a film studio. Not a production house. Their business is not about films, it's about raising venture capital, and (maybe) providing an exit to their investors. Whether they do it by producing a blockbuster movie or some other thing is immaterial, and they'll pivot towards whatever is the most expedient path. They're an "AI tools" company.

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I think being constantly outraged over stuff happening to no one I personally know for twenty years that will never affect my daily life has become too exhausting for me to keep it up, and I'm not convinced my learning about it is helping anyone. It's not changing how I vote. Apply whatever insult you want to it, but I'm finished. Making a data center in my home town? I'm going to do anything I can to stop it. Entert…

It's a pathetic outlook to just roll over and let everyone screw you over constantly

I agree. That's why I was careful to mention that I'm still trying to stay informed about things I think will actually affect me personally.

If the only thing that changes from me reading headlines is my emotional state and not my decisions, I'm going to just stop with the headlines because they exacerbate anxiety and insomnia and my family needs my attention more.

I don't find this position pathetic at all.

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What part of the directing and making is fake? Does the film not exist? Was it not made by a team creating and sewing clips together under the direction of someone?

That’s not directing dude. No more than me prompting makes me an artist.

How is that not directing when literally a decent amount of effort was placed into ensuring the output meets desired criteria? It's not like they were using prompts of a couple sentences and rolling with the first result; they were highly detailed and the results expectation-gated.

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Sounds like none of the largest blockbuster films were made by filmmakers.

False equivalence. A large studio production still retains the voice and editorial oversight of its director, which is why you can differentiate between films by their directors. There are undoubtedly many filmmakers who collaborate on such productions. Whether or not you believe such projects produce good work, you cannot deny the people involved are artists. This company is not that. They're a venture backed silico…

> A large studio production still retains the voice and editorial oversight of its director, which is why you can differentiate between films by their directors

None of that really matters. Ultimately films are rated based on how much they make at the box office, which is a function of the content, audience preferences and marketing. A director becomes well known by the impact of their production, not the other way around. Really doesn't matter - to the majority spending to see a given film - who the director was, beyond as a marker to find/avoid similar works in the future. If a director makes a crappy film with humans, they'll be known as a crappy director. And if they make a good film using AI, they'll be known as a good director (UNLESS there are a lot of specifically anti-AI people in the crowd AND it's known the film was made using primarily AI). And the good director will be praised for the artistry they put into the work.

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That’s not directing dude. No more than me prompting makes me an artist.

How is that not directing when literally a decent amount of effort was placed into ensuring the output meets desired criteria? It's not like they were using prompts of a couple sentences and rolling with the first result; they were highly detailed and the results expectation-gated.

I think you need to go look up what film directors do. Getting “the shot” is just one aspect of their lives. You can not tell me directing 1,000s of people to unite behind a common scene is the same as prompting a LTX2.3 workflow. It just isn’t. That’s more like being a cinematographer than a director.

I’m not taking anything away from those that use AI to make videos but to call yourselves directors… rofl.

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I think being constantly outraged over stuff happening to no one I personally know for twenty years that will never affect my daily life has become too exhausting for me to keep it up, and I'm not convinced my learning about it is helping anyone. It's not changing how I vote. Apply whatever insult you want to it, but I'm finished. Making a data center in my home town? I'm going to do anything I can to stop it. Entert…

You have a voice. Don't give up.

That's true, but I have limited capacity to use my voice to enact material change in the world.

Some people put their efforts towards changes that will reduce the most suffering for the most people.

Others enact change that will most individually benefit themselves.

Still others enact whichever attempts at change require the least effort.

And some (like me) want to enact whichever changes will reduce suffering specifically for the people close to them.

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