Considering that Ferrari has been making very ugly cars since about 2004 thanks to their penchant for overexaggerating every single design feature, it's somewhat surprising that they managed to keep it up despite hiring an outsider. Even moreso that they somehow managed to do that by swinging in the complete opposite direction and simplifying everything as much as they could. The Roma and Amalfi show the design language they're currently using after abandoning the caricature that started with the F430, and yet they chose this instead.
Ferrari shares fall after launch of first EV as Jony Ive design proves divisive
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Re: Ferrari shares fall after launch of first EV as Jony Ive design proves divisive
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
I posit that a mouse that needs to be on its back to be charged, thus rendering it completely useless during that time, to be much much much worse than a round mouse with no immediate indication which way is forward...
It takes a half hour to get months of charge back, so it’s not a functional problem. I think you wanted to have a wireless mouse with a port in the back so it feels like a wired mouse when you want it to. That would have been cool but I suspect a standard usb cable wouldn’t be rated for being continually contorted and wouldn’t be as pleasant as a wired mouse wire designed for that, so you’d need a special wire and it…
Even if it is half an hour, that's half an hour of /no functionality/ - whether that is acceptable to you is a personal decision, but to claim it's not a functional problem is a lie.
My Sony wireless headphones have a similar issue. They cannot be used (with Bluetooth / ANC) when charging. My ReDragon USB mouse does not have that issue - it has a standard USB-C port on the front edge and I only need to charge it every few weeks, which is far less often than I charge a phone, so insertion cycles is not a concern.
Re: Ferrari shares fall after launch of first EV as Jony Ive design proves divisive
#83I’m not really sure why someone would hire Ive to design a car. I don’t know much about him, but to me he’s mostly known for designing Apple products, not luxury vehicles. Hiring someone because of their name recognition in a role they aren’t suited for would of course backfire. (Again, maybe he does have some prior work that means he’s suited for the job and I’m just unaware)
The hiring brand is Ferrari. Its entire business is predicated on a Paris-Hilton-style effect, whereby it is famous for being famous. Tactics like hiring Jony Ive are a common way to keep this virtuous cycle afloat. It's not really about design, it's about PR/hype/reputation/branding.
it's not about the design yet stock plunged 6% for no reason then?
Re: Ferrari shares fall after launch of first EV as Jony Ive design proves divisive
#84I’ve never really understood why electric cars need to look so visually different from gas cars. I feel like if more EVs just looked like normal, great-looking cars, a lot more people would probably be interested in buying them.
Re: Ferrari shares fall after launch of first EV as Jony Ive design proves divisive
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the "Magic mouse" of ferraris Could be worse. Could be the 1998 iMac mouse of cars. (No way to tell which way it's going.)
I posit that a mouse that needs to be on its back to be charged, thus rendering it completely useless during that time, to be much much much worse than a round mouse with no immediate indication which way is forward...
I heard they didn't want it to be functional while charging because then people would use it plugged in all the time. They wanted it to be clear that it takes a little time to charge, then you use it unplugged. Might make more sense if there were battery level LEDs on the top or something. But it's just a couple reminders and then bang it's dead.
Re: Ferrari shares fall after launch of first EV as Jony Ive design proves divisive
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
It takes a half hour to get months of charge back, so it’s not a functional problem. I think you wanted to have a wireless mouse with a port in the back so it feels like a wired mouse when you want it to. That would have been cool but I suspect a standard usb cable wouldn’t be rated for being continually contorted and wouldn’t be as pleasant as a wired mouse wire designed for that, so you’d need a special wire and it…
Even if it is half an hour, that's half an hour of /no functionality/ - whether that is acceptable to you is a personal decision, but to claim it's not a functional problem is a lie. My Sony wireless headphones have a similar issue. They cannot be used (with Bluetooth / ANC) when charging. My ReDragon USB mouse does not have that issue - it has a standard USB-C port on the front edge and I only need to charge it ever…
I had some Skullcandy bluetooth headphones I liked, and when the foam started to go, I bought the new model of the same product. The new ones instantly disconnect when charging, so you can't listen with them wired to a charger/power bank. Why???
Re: Ferrari shares fall after launch of first EV as Jony Ive design proves divisive
#87Funny that its failure is in being too chubby, when Ive was famous for making Apple products overly thin (think butterfly keyboard).
Re: Ferrari shares fall after launch of first EV as Jony Ive design proves divisive
#88I’ve never really understood why electric cars need to look so visually different from gas cars. I feel like if more EVs just looked like normal, great-looking cars, a lot more people would probably be interested in buying them.
Maybe it's the misguided fear of "cannibalizing" the sales of the ICE cars. It's based on an assumption that whoever is now driving an ICE car wants to drive another ICE car, and EVs should tap into a new segment.
Many hybrid cars, even plug-in hybrids, look like ICE cars, and don't stand out on the street. I think it's the way to go for more EV adoption.
Re: Ferrari shares fall after launch of first EV as Jony Ive design proves divisive
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even if it is half an hour, that's half an hour of /no functionality/ - whether that is acceptable to you is a personal decision, but to claim it's not a functional problem is a lie. My Sony wireless headphones have a similar issue. They cannot be used (with Bluetooth / ANC) when charging. My ReDragon USB mouse does not have that issue - it has a standard USB-C port on the front edge and I only need to charge it ever…
I had some Skullcandy bluetooth headphones I liked, and when the foam started to go, I bought the new model of the same product. The new ones instantly disconnect when charging, so you can't listen with them wired to a charger/power bank. Why???
I got a power bank that won’t give power and charge simultaneously either. Hated it.
Re: Ferrari shares fall after launch of first EV as Jony Ive design proves divisive
#90I can smell the headline "Apple acquires Ferrari".