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The bootstrapper's EU stack for under €10 per month

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Re: The bootstrapper's EU stack for under €10 per month

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Post by Reubend »

Doohickey-d wrote: post #47
jviotti wrote: post #35

You are missing https://unikraft.com/pricing . Amazing compute, 2 instances free. A German company. Offers EU hosting too. Just a happy paying user myself

Hm, interesting. But the pricing page is quite confusing to me: the $39 "pro plan" says "Up to 8 instances running". And above that, "Pricing that scales to zero". But if I'm always paying $39, what's the point of scaling to zero vs just keeping the 8 instances running? I guess the point is that you can scale down one workload and scale up another, but that seems a bit niche compared to the much more common use case…

Yeah I really agree. There's no overage pricing on their website's main pricing page, which makes me think the jump from "Team" to "Pro" to negotiating an enterprise contract will really hurt. Going from $39/month to $199/moth because you needed slightly more is a really big jump in pricing. It's pretty much the opposite of what I would expect from a service that lets you scale to 0.

Re: The bootstrapper's EU stack for under €10 per month

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Post by tmaier »

I would be interested to learn more about Mollie as an alternative to Stripe. I saw that it has some Subscription API endpoints, but I am not sure how it compares in real life to Stripe. How much would I need to build myself in a classical Ruby on Rails SaaS app compared to pay gem/stripe?

Are there any reference implementations for any of mainstream programming language and web development frameworks for this use-case?

Re: The bootstrapper's EU stack for under €10 per month

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Post by dominikz »

From the two cloud services listed I have only experience with Hetzner Cloud (extensive) and OVHCloud (less). The other day (2 years back) when I did research on whether to use one or the other, it turned out that OVHCloud did not have any reasonable user management, ie. you would need to do all the machine acquisition under one 'root' account. That was a deal breaker and the reason why going with Hetzner Cloud felt more natural. I can still confirm that the choice was good from my perspective.

I wonder if anything changed WRT to user management in OVHCloud and how does it compare to other platforms.

Re: The bootstrapper's EU stack for under €10 per month

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Post by projektfu »

CodesInChaos wrote: post #25

> passkeys, the modern way to handle login that gets rid of password resets entirely Doesn't that just trade password resets for passkey resets? Or do they permanently lock out users who lose their passkey?

All I know is I have about a dozen sites that think I have a passkey that I can neither find nor replace, and I have another few that allow only one passkey per device even if I have multiple logins.

Re: The bootstrapper's EU stack for under €10 per month

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Post by BrunoBernardino »

chrisweekly wrote: post #53
sparkling wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After Sendgrid got acquired by Twilio and retired their free plan, i also went with Brevo and am quite happy with it. No deliverability issues on the major email operators (Google, MS365) at all, decent delivery speed.

Fastmail is excellent, FWIW

Indeed, but we're talking about transactional/newsletter email providers here, which isn't what Fastmail is for, and beware it's a violation of their terms to use their product for that [1]:

> The Services are not designed for sending automated or transactional emails. It is a violation of these Terms to use the Services to send programmatically generated emails to addresses that are outside your Customer Account.

[1]: https://www.fastmail.com/policies/terms-of-service/

Re: The bootstrapper's EU stack for under €10 per month

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Post by pocksuppet »

CodesInChaos wrote: post #25

> passkeys, the modern way to handle login that gets rid of password resets entirely Doesn't that just trade password resets for passkey resets? Or do they permanently lock out users who lose their passkey?

Yeah, the whole point of passkeys is for the user to not be able to control them. You're at the provider's mercy if you want to switch to another device.

Re: The bootstrapper's EU stack for under €10 per month

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Post by ian_holt »

Doohickey-d wrote: post #47
jviotti wrote: post #35

You are missing https://unikraft.com/pricing . Amazing compute, 2 instances free. A German company. Offers EU hosting too. Just a happy paying user myself

Hm, interesting. But the pricing page is quite confusing to me: the $39 "pro plan" says "Up to 8 instances running". And above that, "Pricing that scales to zero". But if I'm always paying $39, what's the point of scaling to zero vs just keeping the 8 instances running? I guess the point is that you can scale down one workload and scale up another, but that seems a bit niche compared to the much more common use case…

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Re: The bootstrapper's EU stack for under €10 per month

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Post by chrisweekly »

BrunoBernardino wrote: post #85
chrisweekly wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fastmail is excellent, FWIW

Indeed, but we're talking about transactional/newsletter email providers here, which isn't what Fastmail is for, and beware it's a violation of their terms to use their product for that [1]: > The Services are not designed for sending automated or transactional emails. It is a violation of these Terms to use the Services to send programmatically generated emails to addresses that are outside your Customer Account. [1…

Thanks - great catch. Too late for me to edit my comment.
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