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Flipper One – we need your help

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Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by embedding-shape »

boesboes wrote: post #74
embedding-shape wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tbh, I'm getting more frustrated with the ever-coming flood of "Bah I didn't read because it was obvious AI blah blah" which seemingly every single submission HAS to come with nowadays on HN, god forbid someone is more interested in the content than the flow of the words. If you have specific complaints about the text and content, bring those up instead, and we could discuss those or even correct the linked page itse…

nah it is just super disrespectful to make me read something you were too lazy to read.

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Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by simonklitj »

LastTrain wrote: post #46
chuckadams wrote: post #36

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Anything that anyone ever writes from now on has people coming out of the woodwork to accuse it of being AI-written. I too bemoan what the written word is coming to, but I am also so over the Slop Police, and wish they would just keep the conclusions of their sleuthing to themselves from now on.

I appreciate that some sites state explicitly whether AI was used in content creation. I wish it were the social norm.

I think this is the optimal outcome of the “Slop Police.” Normalization of these acknowledgements. Transparency is good, like a journalist declaring whether they have vested interests.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by fsflover »

nicman23 wrote: post #35
fsflover wrote: post #10

Related discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48212046 This project looks similar to Librem 5 to me. The same goal of open drivers and minimal blobs everywhere.

i mean i trust the flipper guys more

Librem 5 already exists and is my daily driver phone though.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by brookst »

embedding-shape wrote: post #18
armchairhacker wrote: post #13

Can someone explain why Flipper is making these decisions, or what advantages Flipper One has vs a Flipper Zero, RPI, and Linux machine? The (EDIT2: maybe not) AI writing doesn’t help. EDIT: looking more, it seems like the goal is to be a fun project like Playdate, except a Linux multi-tool instead of game console. Which is actually great, a step towards healing today’s corporatized tech culture. It’s unfortunate tha…

Can't answer for the One, as I don't think even they themselves know what it'll end up being when done, but for the Zero, the biggest benefit have been the whole "one device = one large community = lots of firmware = lots of software" thing which gets a lot of benefits from one cohesive community around one device, I'm guessing the One would also get similar benefits with this. As a current Zero user, I'd definitivel…

Can you elaborate on how you use the zero? I got all excited, bought one, and it’s in a drawer. I’m way deep into coding, CNC machining, making of all sorts… but I just never incorporated it.

What am I missing? What do you use yours for?

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by sevenzero »

embedding-shape wrote: post #26
ctenb wrote: post #21

Most articles I click on in the HN homepage turn out to be written by AI, judging from the phrasing. I'm weirded out by the fact that people don't seem to find it important to write their own thoughts down. The writing in TFA is clearly supervised by a human, but still, the wording is not human at all.

Tbh, I'm getting more frustrated with the ever-coming flood of "Bah I didn't read because it was obvious AI blah blah" which seemingly every single submission HAS to come with nowadays on HN, god forbid someone is more interested in the content than the flow of the words. If you have specific complaints about the text and content, bring those up instead, and we could discuss those or even correct the linked page itse…

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Post by boesboes »

d3Xt3r wrote: post #64
dpoloncsak wrote: post #7

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The product you’re suggesting is $1400, where as the zero sold for a 1/8 of that. Do we expect the Flipper One to have such a price hike as well?

We don't know the cost of the One yet. Besides, the GPD can also be used for playing AAA games, and the keyboard makes it far more useful as a general purpose PC.

my macbook can do that too, and is much faster!

It's clear you want something else, go buy that instead of shitting on other projects maybe?

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by d3Xt3r »

NeckBeardPrince wrote: post #6
d3Xt3r wrote: post #2

Cool, but I think they're holding themselves back with that weird form-factor. I would've preferred if they'd included a full QWERTY keyboard, like the the GPD Pocket 4[1] or the GPD Win Mini. With a proper keyboard, I could write code on the go, easily edit files, navigate a terminal and mess with things... and do so much more in general. Also, 8GB RAM is barely enough these days, whereas the GPD comes with upto 64G…

I don’t think the Flipper market is trying to compete with devices like this.

If you're strictly taking about the Zero, I'd agree with you, but with the One they're entering a new market. I mean, kind of people who like to mess around with Linux and do hacker-y network-y things are also generally the kind of people who would prefer to use a keyboard, the kind who would love the extra hardware grunt to speed up tools like hashcat.

And of course, the One will be cheaper than a full-fledged x86 handheld, but if you're willing to spend a bit more, you can do so so much more - it becomes a more practical device.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by tisdadd »

embedding-shape wrote: post #41
blanched wrote: post #30

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On the one hand, I get what you mean. Some genuinely interesting projects are immediately dismissed because AI was involved. On the other hand, I have two real problems with AI writing. 1. LLM prose is genuinely unpleasant to read. Its the exact same way that I strongly dislike reading LinkedIn posts or email marketing copy. It's all the same slimy tone that's using a certain sentence structure and rhetoric to try to…

> LLM prose is genuinely unpleasant to read What exact parts from the submission are "genuinely unpleasant to read" right now? Highlighting those could make it better rather than just filling HN with "LLM texts is boring to read". > Sometimes it feels like someone asking you to read an article with no punctuation or grammar Ok, but is that actually the problem here, or why are you adding more general complaints inste…

I mean, I got about half way through before going blah. But it is a fun looking project and it is great that they are pushing for an open platform.

I like to read, but some writing is more enjoyable than others. If you want to contribute to their wiki, you can do so.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by InsideOutSanta »

ctenb wrote: post #21

Most articles I click on in the HN homepage turn out to be written by AI, judging from the phrasing. I'm weirded out by the fact that people don't seem to find it important to write their own thoughts down. The writing in TFA is clearly supervised by a human, but still, the wording is not human at all.

I'm actually confused by how people even use LLMs to write these articles. They sound so synthetic that I assume the LLM wrote most or all of the text, but how?

Do they just write a bullet list of notes and then tell the LLM to go wild?

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by d3Xt3r »

boesboes wrote: post #86
d3Xt3r wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don't know the cost of the One yet. Besides, the GPD can also be used for playing AAA games, and the keyboard makes it far more useful as a general purpose PC.

my macbook can do that too, and is much faster! It's clear you want something else, go buy that instead of shitting on other projects maybe?

A MacBook can't fit in a pant pocket though. The GPD can, well, at least in cargo pant pockets.
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