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Re: Codex-maxxing

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Post by glaslong »

devinprater wrote: post #61

I'm trying to get out of this. I'm a blind person. No one in tech goes to bed thinking about us, as it were. So, as a non-programmer, vibe coding accessibility fixes was an outlet to the daily million papercuts of using operating systems built by people who cannot understand me. Well, I have barely anything to show for months of this. I made Termux more accessible on Android, made an MUD client for Emacs, fixed up so…

This sounds like a good amount to show, given it's done while pushing through some daily million paper-cuts and the macro-cut of depression. I don't know as much about the former, but can attest the latter is non-trivial.

Do you post somewhere where I could follow what you're working on?

Re: Codex-maxxing

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Post by wahnfrieden »

59nadir wrote: post #41
wahnfrieden wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An interesting piece of context with this guy is he writes about a serious hand injury that prevents him from typing much anymore. He says that adopting LLM workflows saved his hands (beyond just dictating everything).

I lost about 50% functionality in my hands in 2018-2019 and couldn't type more than an hour or so per day, what really saved me was dictation via Dragon NaturallySpeaking, and for coding I used dragonfly to create programming grammars. I'm happy for this guy for finding a solution but LLMs (in this shape) were late to the party.

Were you as fast dictating code (not just outputting it, but navigating, editing, refactoring etc.) as you were before needing it? If it was slower, then LLM assistance is significant in making such disability no longer an impairment for the job.

Re: Codex-maxxing

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Post by CSMastermind »

dr_kiszonka wrote: post #80
CSMastermind wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not as far as I know. Can you walk me through the process? I have my phone, I'm going for a walk, what app am I opening?

For Codex, that is ChatGPT? https://openai.com/index/work-with-codex-from-anywhere/ Or do you want it to speak to you too? I think this would have to be TTS on your phone. You can have ChatGPT speak to you but I don't see that feature in Codex.

Sure I speak to ChatGPT all the time and I've used the feature you've linked but it can't do the things I described. It won't be like, "hey let me go look into that" and then come back in 3 minutes with an answer. It's essentially a dictation feature.

Re: Codex-maxxing

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Post by ninininino »

"Every 30 minutes, check Slack and Gmail for unanswered messages that need my attention.

Help me prioritize what matters most.

If someone asks me a question, research the answer as deeply as you can and draft a reply for me, but do not send it."

This is a very dangerous road to go down. You may feel like you are getting more done but end up living your life on autopilot, without any introspection or applying your own taste.

Re: Codex-maxxing

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Post by 59nadir »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #82
59nadir wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I lost about 50% functionality in my hands in 2018-2019 and couldn't type more than an hour or so per day, what really saved me was dictation via Dragon NaturallySpeaking, and for coding I used dragonfly to create programming grammars. I'm happy for this guy for finding a solution but LLMs (in this shape) were late to the party.

Were you as fast dictating code (not just outputting it, but navigating, editing, refactoring etc.) as you were before needing it? If it was slower, then LLM assistance is significant in making such disability no longer an impairment for the job.

Once you get into it it's not any slower than typing; if anything I think you can actually be faster with a good enough grammar, and it's precise too.

The problem I had eventually was that dictating all day is itself something that wears you out, so you get hoarse and honestly a bit more tired from it when you do it too much.

But no, overall a good Dragonfly grammar should be something that keeps you at least up to par with your typing speed.

Re: Codex-maxxing

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Post by dr_kiszonka »

CSMastermind wrote: post #83
dr_kiszonka wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For Codex, that is ChatGPT? https://openai.com/index/work-with-codex-from-anywhere/ Or do you want it to speak to you too? I think this would have to be TTS on your phone. You can have ChatGPT speak to you but I don't see that feature in Codex.

Sure I speak to ChatGPT all the time and I've used the feature you've linked but it can't do the things I described. It won't be like, "hey let me go look into that" and then come back in 3 minutes with an answer. It's essentially a dictation feature.

I am lost. Codex can't look up stuff for you in your codebase? GitHub Copilot can't look up PRs for you?

Re: Codex-maxxing

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Post by joshspankit »

dyauspitr wrote: post #72
devinprater wrote: post #61

I'm trying to get out of this. I'm a blind person. No one in tech goes to bed thinking about us, as it were. So, as a non-programmer, vibe coding accessibility fixes was an outlet to the daily million papercuts of using operating systems built by people who cannot understand me. Well, I have barely anything to show for months of this. I made Termux more accessible on Android, made an MUD client for Emacs, fixed up so…

How does a blind person read and write code? Serious question. I’m imagining braille screens (is that a thing?)

You might be interested to learn exactly how fast some listen to screen readers, and how many overlapping sounds can be successfully navigated

Re: Codex-maxxing

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Post by [deleted] »

skiing_crawling wrote: post #27

Is this LLM psychosis? So much tending and conversing with the matmuls but what was the outcome? Are people who get this into it more successful somehow? It reminds me of people who take drugs and get "revelations" but then are not particularly over represented in the group of successful people for all of their deep insights.

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Re: Codex-maxxing

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Post by galsapir »

dyauspitr wrote: post #71
skiing_crawling wrote: post #27

Is this LLM psychosis? So much tending and conversing with the matmuls but what was the outcome? Are people who get this into it more successful somehow? It reminds me of people who take drugs and get "revelations" but then are not particularly over represented in the group of successful people for all of their deep insights.

Calling something emergent a matmul is like calling a human an axon discharge.

axon discharge is brilliant. adopting.

Re: Codex-maxxing

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Post by devinprater »

glaslong wrote: post #81
devinprater wrote: post #61

I'm trying to get out of this. I'm a blind person. No one in tech goes to bed thinking about us, as it were. So, as a non-programmer, vibe coding accessibility fixes was an outlet to the daily million papercuts of using operating systems built by people who cannot understand me. Well, I have barely anything to show for months of this. I made Termux more accessible on Android, made an MUD client for Emacs, fixed up so…

This sounds like a good amount to show, given it's done while pushing through some daily million paper-cuts and the macro-cut of depression. I don't know as much about the former, but can attest the latter is non-trivial. Do you post somewhere where I could follow what you're working on?

github.com/devinprater
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