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The American Rebellion Against AI Is Gaining Steam

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Re: The American Rebellion Against AI Is Gaining Steam

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Post by librasteve »

rob74 wrote: post #25
hydroplane wrote: post #6

I often wonder how different AI sentiment would be today if all of the layoffs that were opportunistically blamed on AI by the company CEOs were instead blamed on the real reason (likely pandemic related over hiring). The root of the backlash started as a result of all those “AI” layoffs and the hyperscaler CEOs gloating how everybody was going to lose their job due to AI. So in the end, they reap what they sow. A gr…

The real reason is "make number go up". A few years ago, you showed the stock market (or your investors if you weren't listed yet) how amazing a company you were by hiring people like crazy, even if you didn't need them, and giving them all sorts of perks, including (but not limited to) home office. Now, the stock market wants to see blood, so you have to sacrifice people - not because you're actually losing money, b…

this “square wave” effect is driven by interest rates … when the bank rate is very low investors will tolerate high level of gambling on growth (ponzi-like). as soon as money will grow anyway in the bank, then investors demand actual RoI

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Post by samrus »

soundworlds wrote: post #59

1. So AI companies royally screwed over artists and other culture workers. 2. Culture workers are a big part of who sets the narrative for the general population - especially young people. 3. Less than 1/5 of Gen Z are optimistic about AI and the number is falling: ( https://news.gallup.com/poll/708224/gen-adoption-steady-skep... ) The current wave of AI companies did this to themselves. Had things moved more slowly…

This is a genuinely great point. It articulates something i could feel happening but couldnt fully recognize. And i guess the AI compananies couldnt wither because they thought screwing over culture workers was free

Also love the term culture workers. Everyone keeps talking about knowledge workers but culture workers play a huge part in society that no one in the AI space mentioned

Re: The American Rebellion Against AI Is Gaining Steam

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Post by samrus »

somesortofthing wrote: post #79
soundworlds wrote: post #59

1. So AI companies royally screwed over artists and other culture workers. 2. Culture workers are a big part of who sets the narrative for the general population - especially young people. 3. Less than 1/5 of Gen Z are optimistic about AI and the number is falling: ( https://news.gallup.com/poll/708224/gen-adoption-steady-skep... ) The current wave of AI companies did this to themselves. Had things moved more slowly…

I think AI companies have actually broadly adopted the right strategy. There's no way to sugarcoat or hide that your company's pitch is "your salary is our TAM, btw our product is so powerful it might cause human extinction". Deploying as widely as possible while steamrolling opposition before it can get its bearings is the only viable option for the technology as they describe it.

I call bullshit. They got greedy. The right way would have been to work with both knowledge and culture workers instead of making it an antagonistic relationship. These are the people ai companies need to operate their agents. Its stupid to threaten them and foment resentment

Also dont be ridiculous. We didnt go extinct from the nuke, we wont go extinct from a next token predictor

Re: The American Rebellion Against AI Is Gaining Steam

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Post by otterley »

senectus1 wrote: post #62
soundworlds wrote: post #59

1. So AI companies royally screwed over artists and other culture workers. 2. Culture workers are a big part of who sets the narrative for the general population - especially young people. 3. Less than 1/5 of Gen Z are optimistic about AI and the number is falling: ( https://news.gallup.com/poll/708224/gen-adoption-steady-skep... ) The current wave of AI companies did this to themselves. Had things moved more slowly…

yeah, completely agree. Made worse by the fact that the boomer and gen X generations are really well known for the whole "fuck you I've got mine, i deserve to stay rich and comfortable" attitude.... I get the feeling that shits coming to a head.

Please don’t lump GenX in with boomers. We are the first generation not to have lifetime employment and pensions, the first generation to pay through the nose for higher education, and many of our peers are just barely scraping by at 50 alongside our Millenial and GenZ friends.

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Post by warumdarum »

somesortofthing wrote: post #79
soundworlds wrote: post #59

1. So AI companies royally screwed over artists and other culture workers. 2. Culture workers are a big part of who sets the narrative for the general population - especially young people. 3. Less than 1/5 of Gen Z are optimistic about AI and the number is falling: ( https://news.gallup.com/poll/708224/gen-adoption-steady-skep... ) The current wave of AI companies did this to themselves. Had things moved more slowly…

I think AI companies have actually broadly adopted the right strategy. There's no way to sugarcoat or hide that your company's pitch is "your salary is our TAM, btw our product is so powerful it might cause human extinction". Deploying as widely as possible while steamrolling opposition before it can get its bearings is the only viable option for the technology as they describe it.

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Re: The American Rebellion Against AI Is Gaining Steam

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Post by asdfasgasdgasdg »

soundworlds wrote: post #59

1. So AI companies royally screwed over artists and other culture workers. 2. Culture workers are a big part of who sets the narrative for the general population - especially young people. 3. Less than 1/5 of Gen Z are optimistic about AI and the number is falling: ( https://news.gallup.com/poll/708224/gen-adoption-steady-skep... ) The current wave of AI companies did this to themselves. Had things moved more slowly…

> 1. So AI companies royally screwed over artists and other culture workers.

Counterpoint: AI's displacement of culture workers is to this point negligible. Nobody is consuming AI-generated media, except maybe in the trashiest tier of tiktok scrolling. Culture workers feel screwed, but they have not in fact been screwed.

Re: The American Rebellion Against AI Is Gaining Steam

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Post by fortran77 »

There's a lot to like about AI, but there's so much slop and everthing is getting so shitty, if I had to choose a side, it would be "against it."

I had to suffer through taling to Sutter Heath's AI three times today before I could get through to a person to tell them about a billing mistake. I finally decided to send a formal demand letter via FedEx (written with the help of AI) rather than deal with all this AI slop they've put between me and customer service.

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Post by userbinator »

asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #87
soundworlds wrote: post #59

1. So AI companies royally screwed over artists and other culture workers. 2. Culture workers are a big part of who sets the narrative for the general population - especially young people. 3. Less than 1/5 of Gen Z are optimistic about AI and the number is falling: ( https://news.gallup.com/poll/708224/gen-adoption-steady-skep... ) The current wave of AI companies did this to themselves. Had things moved more slowly…

> 1. So AI companies royally screwed over artists and other culture workers. Counterpoint: AI's displacement of culture workers is to this point negligible. Nobody is consuming AI-generated media, except maybe in the trashiest tier of tiktok scrolling. Culture workers feel screwed, but they have not in fact been screwed.

The "artists and other culture workers" are now the rest of the population, making what they want without needing to passively consume the legacy media.
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