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Re: AI eats the world (Spring 26) [pdf]

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It will literally eat the world. Just like we crowded out wild animals in a few reserved areas, so will AI data centers crowd us out. To quite Ilya Sutskever: > I think it’s pretty likely the entire surface of the earth will be covered with solar panels and data centers.

> To quite Ilya Sutskever: Who made Ilya Sutskever, or any other LLM-bonehead the Grand Prophet of Humanity? Why the fuck is his opinion on that relevant? Of course he will shill for data centers.

when someone gives their opinion about AI, one typical retort is "are you an AI/LLM expert? we should let the experts talk"

Re: AI eats the world (Spring 26) [pdf]

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> To quite Ilya Sutskever: Who made Ilya Sutskever, or any other LLM-bonehead the Grand Prophet of Humanity? Why the fuck is his opinion on that relevant? Of course he will shill for data centers.

when someone gives their opinion about AI, one typical retort is "are you an AI/LLM expert? we should let the experts talk"

The so-called experts are bought and paid for.

Re: AI eats the world (Spring 26) [pdf]

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What good is an open-weights DeepSeek model if you have nowhere to run it? OpenAI / Google / Anthropic / XAI also have a ton of compute. That is the real moat.

antirez running (quantized) DeepSeek V4 Pro on a Mac Studio M3 Ultra with 512GB of RAM: https://bsky.app/profile/antirez.bsky.social/post/3mlzwmvlov... It's much closer than you think. We're going to see specialized hardware in the next 24 months capable of running 2025-era frontier models. That's big.

It's big because it may take a big swath of people who will actually pay for LLMs out of the market. But for the average consumer they're going to primarily use their phone/tablet and we're far away from that being possible.

Even if it were possible the LLMs are such a gold mine of user data. It's really hard to see that opportunity be passed up.

Re: AI eats the world (Spring 26) [pdf]

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You can find the 4 versions of Benedict's deck here: https://www.ben-evans.com/presentations I appreciate the temporal view into this thinking. My interpretation: Nov 2024: Don’t dismiss this; it may be the next platform shift. But the actual questions are still unsettled: scaling, usefulness, deployment, and business model. May 2025: The model layer is already showing signs of commoditization, so the important quest…

Thanks for the summary. I do love Benedict‘s work; I find he’s one of the few commentators who consistently strikes a balance between taking the transformative potential of AI seriously while not falling over into hype.

Some things that stand out:

* He’s really good with his historical analogies, especially looking at previous transformations like the early Internet and mobile; no surprise given that he has a history degree.

* he emphasizes over and over how we have still have no idea how all of this is going to work when the dust settles. I think that’s kind of a historian’s move as well. When you look at what people were saying during the early days of the web, for example, almost all of their predictions weren’t just wrong… in hindsight, given how the future played out, they were asking the wrong questions. The implication is that we are probably asking the wrong questions about AI too.

* Nonetheless his thesis about the commoditization of models is actually a fairly strong concrete prediction. i’m not sure if I agree with it entirely, but I do keep it in mind every time I look at the valuation of leading AI labs.

* he continually makes the point that a chat bot is barely a product and that AI labs have so far had very little success in delivering products above that layer… with the exception of coding agents, of course.

Re: AI eats the world (Spring 26) [pdf]

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What good is an open-weights DeepSeek model if you have nowhere to run it? OpenAI / Google / Anthropic / XAI also have a ton of compute. That is the real moat.

antirez running (quantized) DeepSeek V4 Pro on a Mac Studio M3 Ultra with 512GB of RAM: https://bsky.app/profile/antirez.bsky.social/post/3mlzwmvlov... It's much closer than you think. We're going to see specialized hardware in the next 24 months capable of running 2025-era frontier models. That's big.

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Re: AI eats the world (Spring 26) [pdf]

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It will literally eat the world. Just like we crowded out wild animals in a few reserved areas, so will AI data centers crowd us out. To quite Ilya Sutskever: > I think it’s pretty likely the entire surface of the earth will be covered with solar panels and data centers.

Or we could not do that... Technology is meant to serve us not drive us into a hellscape lol

What's wrong with that? There are now materials that allow you to have solar panels on a window (so they are not opaque anymore), and we can put data centers under our feet.

Re: AI eats the world (Spring 26) [pdf]

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I think that DeepSeek may be important to that. They have a really good model that's open source, raising the bar for all other players: how good your model needs to be so you can make meaningful money on it (better than DeepSeek). Same thing happened on other places the open source offering became popular.

I think the original DeepSeek moment seemed important. And yes, the more recent model is good, but there are multiple. This commodification trend spans many different companies, including Kimi 2.5/2.6 and GLM5.1, and even Google itself with its Gemma models. There are a dozen models that exist at roughly the frontier from 6 months ago at 1/10th the cost.

> that exist at roughly the frontier

no disagree, specifics matter.. There are a dozen well-defined LLM application subject areas that are regularly tested.. one overall grade IMO lacks important detail.. To go a bit abstract, it is ironic that "oversimplification" in the discussion of these complex machines mirrors the effects on information of the automations themselves.. constantly simplifying, substituting and diluting real meaning

Re: AI eats the world (Spring 26) [pdf]

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Nope. This is the exact quote. Crypto today has a lot in common with both the internet in 1993 and the internet in 1999. Huge potential with few of the use cases invented yet, combined with froth, scams and delusion. This makes it easier to dismiss (“useless AND a scam!”). But dismissing crypto as a useless scam is much like looking at Usenet, Cuecat and Boo .com and dismissing the internet. It mistakes applications…

I dunno... but those self-quotes sound a lot like at least implying that "missing out on crypto" would be like missing out on early days of Internet. You also seem to try and retrofit "blockchain" instead of "crypto", but these are two different things - blockchain is a technology, crypto is a form of play-money based on that technology, just like it's older brother, the monopoly-money, is based on the technology of…

No, I was using crypto and blockchain as interchangeable terms. I'm aware some people don't, but that's always how any person the space I've spoken to uses them

Re: AI eats the world (Spring 26) [pdf]

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You can find the 4 versions of Benedict's deck here: https://www.ben-evans.com/presentations I appreciate the temporal view into this thinking. My interpretation: Nov 2024: Don’t dismiss this; it may be the next platform shift. But the actual questions are still unsettled: scaling, usefulness, deployment, and business model. May 2025: The model layer is already showing signs of commoditization, so the important quest…

Thanks for the summary. I do love Benedict‘s work; I find he’s one of the few commentators who consistently strikes a balance between taking the transformative potential of AI seriously while not falling over into hype. Some things that stand out: * He’s really good with his historical analogies, especially looking at previous transformations like the early Internet and mobile; no surprise given that he has a history…

> for example, almost all of their predictions weren’t just wrong… in hindsight, given how the future played out, they were asking the wrong question

Do you have an example of this? My (poor) memory remembers "it's going to change how people buy things", was the big deal at the time, and it seems like it was a great prediction.

Re: AI eats the world (Spring 26) [pdf]

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I dunno... but those self-quotes sound a lot like at least implying that "missing out on crypto" would be like missing out on early days of Internet. You also seem to try and retrofit "blockchain" instead of "crypto", but these are two different things - blockchain is a technology, crypto is a form of play-money based on that technology, just like it's older brother, the monopoly-money, is based on the technology of…

No, I was using crypto and blockchain as interchangeable terms. I'm aware some people don't, but that's always how any person the space I've spoken to uses them

Indeed you did, but that does not make it right. They are not interchangeable. Now again, did you, or did you not promote Bitcoin?
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