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At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

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Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

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Trying to imagine who would be paying for bots to support killing flock cameras. Who would profit from that? Seems more likely to go the other way.

Flock?

If flock is paying people to support destroying flock cameras, sign me up!

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#82

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From TFA: > Reddit threads show near-universal support. If your barometer for actual support is Reddit sentiment, I've got news for you...

9 out if 10 paid astroturfers and bot accounts agree with me!

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Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#83

I've always said we should build an open-source flock that makes all data available for free to anyone, in a ploy to get proper regulations passed. But they'd probably just make it illegal to track police/government cars then break down your door and arrest you for tracking unmarked ICE agent vehicles

Take the Helium crypto scheme of antennas on roofs, but replace antennas with networked cameras, and instead of a scam it’s a protest.

If a few people set them up, took pictures, recorded some of their friends’ license plates with the cameras… then prime time to make a marketing website for the roof cameras that is as scary as possible. It would include the real footage of the license plates, some story about how you get paid for bounties like facial recognition of a husband and the partner he’s suspected to be cheating with… and that you’re not allowed to hire the camera network for stalking (“wink“).

Claim to pay bonuses for cameras mounted in the highest traffic/value locations, with illusions to corporate espionage and stuff.

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#84

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I think it's a fair comment in this case, given that the discussion is essentially about civil disobedience. In other words, I think it's worth mentioning that the (former) slaves who took the underground railroad were breaking the law by doing so.

True, but that's not what "feel like a slave" means as an English phrase - i.e. the phrase does not mean, "feel like you're resisting like a slave", it's "feel like you're helpless like a slave". It's an insult meant to make you accept your conditions, not fight against them .

I'm the person who said it, and I explained what I meant. Don't put words in my mouth.

I'm speaking from the perspective of an American worker. I feel that the relationship between capital and labor in the United States remains linked to slavery, even 150+ years after its formal abolition here.

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#85

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There seems to be enough energy for both?

The irony is destruction of private property will only justify the very surveillance one is trying to avoid. Would you agree ring cameras should be destroyed too? The police can use their footage. In practice they are similar to flock.

an irony may come from the increase, of crime rate where these are installed rather than reduction.

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#86

I've always said we should build an open-source flock that makes all data available for free to anyone, in a ploy to get proper regulations passed. But they'd probably just make it illegal to track police/government cars then break down your door and arrest you for tracking unmarked ICE agent vehicles

AirTag but for dashcams would be cool. The trick is to make a popular product without being a company that's going to gatekeep that data.

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

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might want to check a history book, you may be surprised what the answer usually was.

Regardless, I do agree with the commentor. Effective or not, violence, to me, is always the wrong answer. Calling the "destruction of property" violence though—I might take issue with that.

Under what circumstances might "destruction of property" legitimately be classified as violence in your view?
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