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Details of the Daring Airdrop at Tristan Da Cunha

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Re: Details of the Daring Airdrop at Tristan Da Cunha

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Post by seszett »

bcjdjsndon wrote: post #76
seszett wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many self-described anticolonialists forget that "self-determination" doesn't actually mean "people who live far away from the mainland should just fuck off and take care of themselves". I've experienced it a bit as a Frenchman (and we have quite a few remote territories as well) who has lived on a couple of remote places (that were uninhabited as well before becoming French, but that shouldn't actually matter) and i…

I'm missing your point here

I'm saying that it is common for some people to advocate for jettisoning other parts of their country, especially if they are far away from where they live.

Re: Details of the Daring Airdrop at Tristan Da Cunha

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Post by gaiagraphia »

bcjdjsndon wrote: post #77
venzaspa wrote: post #69

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No, you're correct Britain is a collection of islands in the northern hemisphere. This however is an island in the Atlantic ocean and is a British Overseas Territory.

> This however is an island in the Atlantic ocean and is a British Overseas Territory. Britain is actually 3 countries under the control, largely, of England. Britain is the name they use for their empire loot. They can call it what they like, if they dont mind giving up say, the south coast of Britain? No, then pot kettle my man.

What definition of empire are you running here? Is it the same definition you'd assign to Russia, India, China, Ethiopia, Iran, Myanmar?

Are the Andaman Islands, Kaliningrad, Midway, Ogaden, Balochistan, Xinjiang all loot under the auspices of empire?

What about the Galapagos? Svalbard? Falklands? All loot? Looted from who?

The word's thrown around a lot, it'd be nice to have a definition for once.

Re: Details of the Daring Airdrop at Tristan Da Cunha

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Post by ceejayoz »

dboreham wrote: post #74
ramesh31 wrote: post #71

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>Are they self-sustaining? How do they pay for stuff the want to import Generally the modern day population of these types of islands are simply cover for the government to maintain political control of an area of ocean surrounding them. Same deal with the Falklands, Orkney/Shetland, etc. To that end their entire existence is more or less subsidised because of this.

Orkney is only 20 miles from the UK mainland so I'm not sure that's the reason. People there make fudge which is pretty good. Until recently (1956) it hosted a major Royal Navy base.

Those two aren't quite comparable; Orkney's been inhabited since before ancient Egypt. Tristan's much more recent, from when we needed stopping points everywhere for sailing ships to pick up water etc.

Re: Details of the Daring Airdrop at Tristan Da Cunha

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Post by gaiagraphia »

bcjdjsndon wrote: post #40
ninalanyon wrote: post #16

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You'd rather we ignored our overseas compatriots?

Colonists you mean.

Just to let you know: Colony: "a geographical area politically controlled by a distant country"

If it's verboten, then I'm guessing:

All Arabs back to the Arabian peninsula? "Latin Americans" back to Europe? The removal of 98% of the USA, Australia, etc? Malagasy back to Madagascar?

Sounds very genocidal... At least half of the world's population uprooted at least :/

Re: Details of the Daring Airdrop at Tristan Da Cunha

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Post by TitaRusell »

seszett wrote: post #72
loloquwowndueo wrote: post #52

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The one thing you seem to be missing in your anticolonialist tirades is the fact that Tristan was uninhabited. It’s not like native peoples were displaced by the British colonists, right?

Many self-described anticolonialists forget that "self-determination" doesn't actually mean "people who live far away from the mainland should just fuck off and take care of themselves". I've experienced it a bit as a Frenchman (and we have quite a few remote territories as well) who has lived on a couple of remote places (that were uninhabited as well before becoming French, but that shouldn't actually matter) and i…

The Netherlands has a few islands off the coast of Venezuela.

Very few of the people who live there want full independence lol.

Re: Details of the Daring Airdrop at Tristan Da Cunha

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Post by pchristensen »

markb139 wrote: post #45

I think this was also a “look what we can do at short notice” kind of exercise. Just in case a country was thinking of maybe trying to take over another set of islands in the south Atlantic

Capabilities need to be practiced in order to be dependable.

Re: Details of the Daring Airdrop at Tristan Da Cunha

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Post by arethuza »

gaiagraphia wrote: post #84
bcjdjsndon wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Colonists you mean.

Just to let you know: Colony: "a geographical area politically controlled by a distant country" If it's verboten, then I'm guessing: All Arabs back to the Arabian peninsula? "Latin Americans" back to Europe? The removal of 98% of the USA, Australia, etc? Malagasy back to Madagascar? Sounds very genocidal... At least half of the world's population uprooted at least :/

And the English back to various corners of north west Europe and the Scots back to Scythia!

Re: Details of the Daring Airdrop at Tristan Da Cunha

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Post by arethuza »

fiftyacorn wrote: post #75
bcjdjsndon wrote: post #41

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I think it's rich the English dont like foreigners given how many countries they think they're entitled to posses

Not sure what that means. What do you think the Uk claims to own? Lots of european countries owned colonies until the post-war settlement. And immigration to UK is at an all time high so not sure on other point?

Immigration to the UK is not at an all time high - both immigration and net migration are down pretty sharply:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70989jrdweo

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