what will our grand kids be shocked to read about us and our acceptable 'cigarettes'? plastic everywhere social media as news teflon fossil fuel cars sugar/ultra-processed food
gambling commercials that are so pervasive on streaming platforms/cable
What the Hell Was Going on with Cigarette Ads in the 70s? (2024)
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#82It's so strange sometimes watching tv shows and movies from the 90's where you see characters smoking indoors in public places. Like in Seinfeld you will have episodes where Kramer is smoking in offices....and even in the doctor's clinic! There was an episode where Kramer took out a cigar and smoked in a doctor's waiting room. I thought he would immediately get in trouble but none of the other characters cared. And t…
I remember visiting a friend in California which I think was the first place to ban smoking in bars. Anyhow we want to some jazz club and no one was smoking. So weird. And I didn't and don't smoke.
If you had asked me I would have said, nah I don't smoke and I don't like the smell but I get used to it. When I got out of that place I suddenly realized that it I didn't "not like it" it really bugged me. And no, I never really got used to it.
So strange.
Re: What the Hell Was Going on with Cigarette Ads in the 70s? (2024)
#83what will our grand kids be shocked to read about us and our acceptable 'cigarettes'? plastic everywhere social media as news teflon fossil fuel cars sugar/ultra-processed food
gambling commercials that are so pervasive on streaming platforms/cable
The other stuff the parent mentioned I don't know about but this one I can totally see. Legalized gambling is going to see like a weird mania of this time in the future.
Re: What the Hell Was Going on with Cigarette Ads in the 70s? (2024)
#84They didn't have a scientific proof that smoking was bad for you. Just like we don't have the proof that social media is awful for you and that Trump is a cult.
Cigarettes were recognised as the cause of lung cancer in the 1940s and 1950s, with the confluence of studies from epidemiology, animal experiments, cellular pathology and chemical analytics https://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/21/2/87
And to think that in the 1920s, doctors prescribed cigarettes for weight loss. And now the tobacco industry is moving on to weed, and repeating the same marketing tricks that they used to sell cigarettes nearly a 100 years back ...
Re: What the Hell Was Going on with Cigarette Ads in the 70s? (2024)
#85what will our grand kids be shocked to read about us and our acceptable 'cigarettes'? plastic everywhere social media as news teflon fossil fuel cars sugar/ultra-processed food
This is my take (speaking of political preferences) but gender reassignment surgery is going to look like giving people lobotomies.
I don't know when but I think attitudes abut sex/gender in future will be really different - not your side won and my side lost but just different then we understand. Like people won't do single sex sport different. I think the model for sports in the future is things like those obstacle course shows - Men and Women both compete at the same time but viewers are just aware that they have different capabilities; so they know that a woman doing X is much more amazing then a man doing X+10.
Re: What the Hell Was Going on with Cigarette Ads in the 70s? (2024)
#86They didn't have a scientific proof that smoking was bad for you. Just like we don't have the proof that social media is awful for you and that Trump is a cult.
Looking at smoking rates for people in the US - it peaks for men in the 1950's. I'm not saying studies and taxes and PSA's did nothing but on some level I think most people had a pretty good idea that smoking was no good long before they ever saw scientific proof.
I think those studies, taxes and everything else was as much an expression of that thinking as it was an influence on it.
Re: What the Hell Was Going on with Cigarette Ads in the 70s? (2024)
#87and yet somehow that world seemed more healthy than today's
I talked to everyone I know who was alive in the 1970s, and they're still alive today. That proves it.
Re: What the Hell Was Going on with Cigarette Ads in the 70s? (2024)
#88Is it about how Joe Camel looks like a cock?
... maybe you should see a doctor?
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
> fossil fuel cars All or almost all of fire is my guess. My guess is that celebratory fire is last to go, bonfires, fireworks, in 2070 probably roasting marshmallows is at the edge of reasonable behaviour, but the idea that we deliberately burned things as part of normal life will seem very odd. In 1870 fire is the usual (and incredibly wasteful) way humans make light and heat everywhere. In 1970 there's more abstra…
Fires—interesting point. I'm in a neighborhood in Omaha, Nebraska that is maybe 5 years old—new housing development. There are no chimneys on any of the homes. When I was in the Bay Area, sure, not a surprise. I am surprised the Midwaste gives a shit. (To be sure, everyone seems to have fire pits in their backyards, ha ha. You take what you can get, I suppose.)
It's not about giving a shit. It's about everything costing money and the highly engineered finance math that underpins 99.9% of construction/development and all the sub trades works out best when you use high efficiency everything which doesn't have "hot" exhaust so you get little vent stacks per appliance instead of a chimney.
Re: What the Hell Was Going on with Cigarette Ads in the 70s? (2024)
#90Reminds me of reading my grandparents' old copies of National Geographic from a similar era. The ads were all attractively retro cars or cigarettes. A couple of taglines that stick in the mind are "the thinking man smokes" and "doctors recommend..."!
I remember reading one and they were advertising all the benefits of tubeless tires on drop center rims. High technology at the time.