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Classic 7 is a Windows 10 LTSC mod to look 1:1 to Windows 7

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Re: Classic 7 is a Windows 10 LTSC mod to look 1:1 to Windows 7

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Post by mapontosevenths »

mk_stjames wrote: post #31

Everyone seems to love the Windows 7 era but for me, Windows peaked GUI-wise with Windows 2000 and everything since then has felt like a poor 'skin' or misplaced 'theme' on top of something else. Windows XP's level of 'plug and play' for devices/drivers ushered in the modern OS feel from a usability standpoint, but from a 'get-shit-done' GUI and responsiveness standpoint Win 2000 (and up to Windows Server 2003 by ext…

I used to start with 2000 server (so I could RDP) and then install something like Aston Shell to make it customizable and beautiful.

I miss the days when windows was a platform you could extend and customize.

Re: Classic 7 is a Windows 10 LTSC mod to look 1:1 to Windows 7

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Post by heresie-dabord »

mk_stjames wrote: post #31

Everyone seems to love the Windows 7 era but for me, Windows peaked GUI-wise with Windows 2000 and everything since then has felt like a poor 'skin' or misplaced 'theme' on top of something else. Windows XP's level of 'plug and play' for devices/drivers ushered in the modern OS feel from a usability standpoint, but from a 'get-shit-done' GUI and responsiveness standpoint Win 2000 (and up to Windows Server 2003 by ext…

"Peak Windows GUI" and "Peak GUI" are two separate things.

For "Peak Windows GUI", MW10 and MW11 both score high in my opinion, but the changes in Start Menu behaviour in MW11 and the horrible "Show more options" sub-menu in the MW11 right-click context menu are confusing. So I'll give MW10 the advantage for consistency and less insult to the principle of Least Surprise.

For Peak GUI, I would say there's a tie. An Android device with Desktop Mode is just hard to beat for multi-context usability. Early OS X looked great and had mature GUI ideas. And my daily Linux box with the Sway tiling window manager is the right combination of mouse gestures and keyboard power.

Re: Classic 7 is a Windows 10 LTSC mod to look 1:1 to Windows 7

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Post by ch_123 »

lachiflippi wrote: post #75
ch_123 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They were developed by completely different teams. As an aside - as someone who used ME back in the day, I feel like I honestly had more problems with Vista. ME was a downgrade from 98SE for sure, but I don't remember it being the same level of performance and reliability degradation that I saw going from XP to Vista pre-SP2.

Vista was fine from the get-go if you had enough (>=4GB) RAM, which OEMs mostly didn't bother shipping. My ME machine would reliably BSOD when I opened / closed the CD tray.

I had a big problem with BSODs caused by Nvidia drivers. Of course, you could argue that this was Nvidia's fault, not Vista's, but this was somewhat academic. I moved back to XP (and also started using Linux) and all these problems went away, and I got a lot more out of my RAM to boot.

Re: Classic 7 is a Windows 10 LTSC mod to look 1:1 to Windows 7

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Post by edg5000 »

KronisLV wrote: post #20
bambax wrote: post #7

At work I am made to use Windows 11 and I hate it immensely. Everything's so slow. Nothing operates properly. In addition to forced reboots which are annoying as hell, it also reboots after some time on sleep, for no reason whatsoever. Copilot is everywhere and cannot be truly disabled without admin rights. While not strictly a Windows issue, Outlook is an incredible piece of garbage. It doesn't know if it's running…

I daily drive Windows 11 (with WSL) and with some tweaks it feels okay: the O&O ShutUp10++ utility (or any number of similar ones, as long as you trust them), some group policy, maybe Everything if you want fast search, LibreOffice instead of MS office and just some Settings changes. It sucks if you don't have the permissions to change that stuff and are stuck with the bad defaults. In some ways it's a bit like havin…

> insufficient development effort

I've used Win/Mac both very extensively as daily drivers, but since 2021 using exclusively Ubuntu LTS. In practice I don´t notice any lesser quality, or drivers not being good. I basically have no complaints. I'd say my Ubuntu 22 LTS is a lot less buggy than the megacorp stuff I used to use.

Re: Classic 7 is a Windows 10 LTSC mod to look 1:1 to Windows 7

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Post by d3Xt3r »

mapontosevenths wrote: post #81
mk_stjames wrote: post #31

Everyone seems to love the Windows 7 era but for me, Windows peaked GUI-wise with Windows 2000 and everything since then has felt like a poor 'skin' or misplaced 'theme' on top of something else. Windows XP's level of 'plug and play' for devices/drivers ushered in the modern OS feel from a usability standpoint, but from a 'get-shit-done' GUI and responsiveness standpoint Win 2000 (and up to Windows Server 2003 by ext…

I used to start with 2000 server (so I could RDP) and then install something like Aston Shell to make it customizable and beautiful. I miss the days when windows was a platform you could extend and customize.

Same, but blackbox (bb4win) was my shell of choice. Along with the Win32 Unix tools, Conemu, xyplorer and shell32.dll icon replacements, my Windows back then looked and behaved very similar to a Fluxbox/OpenBox Linux install.

I also recall this 3D shell where your desktop was basically like an first-person shooter, where there would be a literal desk with files that you could click on, a media wall that would display your photos and so on. I forgot what it was called, but it was one of the coolest things ever. In reality it wasn't very practical, but it was still cool. I miss those days of crazy mods and customisation. Everything so locked up and dumbed down these days, in the name of "security".

Re: Classic 7 is a Windows 10 LTSC mod to look 1:1 to Windows 7

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Post by xattt »

mk_stjames wrote: post #31

Everyone seems to love the Windows 7 era but for me, Windows peaked GUI-wise with Windows 2000 and everything since then has felt like a poor 'skin' or misplaced 'theme' on top of something else. Windows XP's level of 'plug and play' for devices/drivers ushered in the modern OS feel from a usability standpoint, but from a 'get-shit-done' GUI and responsiveness standpoint Win 2000 (and up to Windows Server 2003 by ext…

Y’all forgetting that Windows XP (and up to 7) had the classic boxy theme. It was just a menu toggle away in Display Properties. The difference was the Windows icon in the Start menu.

Re: Classic 7 is a Windows 10 LTSC mod to look 1:1 to Windows 7

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Post by hoistbypetard »

mk_stjames wrote: post #31

Everyone seems to love the Windows 7 era but for me, Windows peaked GUI-wise with Windows 2000 and everything since then has felt like a poor 'skin' or misplaced 'theme' on top of something else. Windows XP's level of 'plug and play' for devices/drivers ushered in the modern OS feel from a usability standpoint, but from a 'get-shit-done' GUI and responsiveness standpoint Win 2000 (and up to Windows Server 2003 by ext…

I agree. I rode Server 2003, then after that Server 2008 (which kept most of the 2000-era gui, though the start menu got more vista-shaped) for my Windows development desktop machine for as long as I could. By the time Server 2008 reached end-of-support, I didn't need a Windows development box anymore, and my only contact with Windows has been sporadic, but feels like a distinct downgrade. I've had VMs of each major desktop version for odd small tasks, and have been grateful not to need to spend a lot of time using them.

Re: Classic 7 is a Windows 10 LTSC mod to look 1:1 to Windows 7

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Post by mapontosevenths »

d3Xt3r wrote: post #86
mapontosevenths wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to start with 2000 server (so I could RDP) and then install something like Aston Shell to make it customizable and beautiful. I miss the days when windows was a platform you could extend and customize.

Same, but blackbox (bb4win) was my shell of choice. Along with the Win32 Unix tools, Conemu, xyplorer and shell32.dll icon replacements, my Windows back then looked and behaved very similar to a Fluxbox/OpenBox Linux install. I also recall this 3D shell where your desktop was basically like an first-person shooter, where there would be a literal desk with files that you could click on, a media wall that would display…

I loved bb4win, and used whenever I wanted FAST (boy was it). I used Blackbox on FreeBSD for the longest time so it was nice to have similar experiences.

We used to have highly optimized C code. Now the freakin' start menu is a progressive web app that runs react components because even Microsoft hates developing in WinUI. Madness.

Re: Classic 7 is a Windows 10 LTSC mod to look 1:1 to Windows 7

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Post by Gathering6678 »

jve wrote: post #61
rincebrain wrote: post #57

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I think what drives me mad is its nondeterminism. If I hit Winkey and type a string, it should not be the case that I get different results from doing that 6 times in a row because it depends whether some background task which changes the results finishes first.

Yeah... sometimes it doesn't find anything. Anyways, this has pitched me towards app "Everything" I occasionally check whether after all these years MS has fixed the search... no, no surprise there. I get that it depends on indexing service which may be buggy, etc... but I guess it is possible to prioritize/have alternate index for most important stuff like executables. This bugs me the most: there is a program, but…

Everything is an absolute gem. I literally cannot survive on the work computer without it. At home on Linux, this is one of things (probably the only one even) I really missed from Windows.
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