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Nonprofit hospitals spend billions on consultants with no clear effect

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Re: Nonprofit hospitals spend billions on consultants with no clear effect

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Why should there be any profit in healthcare.

Why should someone sell food for a profit? We literally DIE within DAYS of we can't get food! You see the issue here right? Now.. who pays is the question. Imo it must be the state, because otherwise there are too many perverse incentives.

State funded healthcare is not for profit so your whole point is quite wobbly.

State funded anything is not for profit, too.

Re: Nonprofit hospitals spend billions on consultants with no clear effect

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You don't foresee perverse incentives for the state being the buyer of healthcare? Namely, they aren't the patient, so the incentives have already been divorced is remote, plus they have an incentive to divert funds to consultants, regulators, and lobbyists that the actual consumer doesn't care about. There's some saying about how no one spends someone else's money as wisely as one's own.

States have huge incentives to keep the population healthy though. Sick days aren't a tax base.

What about keeping a healthy population for the sake of keeping a healthy population?

Why should everything be intrinsically tied to profit in your minds?

Re: Nonprofit hospitals spend billions on consultants with no clear effect

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post #82
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

States have huge incentives to keep the population healthy though. Sick days aren't a tax base.

What about keeping a healthy population for the sake of keeping a healthy population? Why should everything be intrinsically tied to profit in your minds?

The previous posted talked about incentives. I countered using their intellectual framework. This is just normal debate.

Re: Nonprofit hospitals spend billions on consultants with no clear effect

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post #81
post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should someone sell food for a profit? We literally DIE within DAYS of we can't get food! You see the issue here right? Now.. who pays is the question. Imo it must be the state, because otherwise there are too many perverse incentives.

State funded healthcare is not for profit so your whole point is quite wobbly. State funded anything is not for profit, too.

I was arguing against the previous poster using their logic. I agree the logic is stupid :P
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