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White House Considers Vetting A.I. Models Before They Are Released

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Re: White House Considers Vetting A.I. Models Before They Are Released

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2ndorderthought wrote: post #79
aurareturn wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably economics eventually. I also don't think we're going to have top tier free models forever. It's going to end within a few years.

They aren't spending money like we are. They've been able to do what they have with an embargo on Nvidia cards even. I think we will see model size shrink more and more and become more efficient. Ideally to the point where they run on high end computers and not data centers. That's the future in my opinion. At that point you could run them on your phone or chrome book for free or with ads like Google search. Or pay f…

They may not see the economic value of releasing models for free and then hoping that you'd use their API. Once they catch up more to US models, they will inevitably go closed source. That's my prediction.

I could see a much more restrictive licensing agreement before going full closed source. It could be a scenario where hyper scalers such as AWS or Azure will gain far more value from free Chinese models than Chinese labs such as when AWS often gained more than for-profit open source software than the creators.

Re: White House Considers Vetting A.I. Models Before They Are Released

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Post by 2ndorderthought »

2ndorderthought wrote: post #79
aurareturn wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably economics eventually. I also don't think we're going to have top tier free models forever. It's going to end within a few years.

They aren't spending money like we are. They've been able to do what they have with an embargo on Nvidia cards even. I think we will see model size shrink more and more and become more efficient. Ideally to the point where they run on high end computers and not data centers. That's the future in my opinion. At that point you could run them on your phone or chrome book for free or with ads like Google search. Or pay f…

Aurareturn. I don't think they care. Geopolitically China stands to gain a lot by commoditizing it's complement. They don't need a booming insanely profitable ai industry. They are not trillions of dollars leveraged in. I think for them the applications matter more. And they can do just fine with the us scrambling for a few decades. They don't think short term the way the us does. Neither do most countries. They also don't do the individualistic burn everything down for one trillionaire thing.

Re: White House Considers Vetting A.I. Models Before They Are Released

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surgical_fire wrote: post #75
aurareturn wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You just perfectly highlighted why over-regulation in tech is troublesome. This is why I've always been against European tech regulations which gave us the cookie prompt. Politicians shouldn't be product designers. Edit: I'll take the downvotes. Every time I say this, I get downvoted. Weirdly, even EU politicians are beginning to see that they've over regulated their tech industry so much that it can't compete but HN…

> European tech regulations which gave us the cookie prompt. What gave you cookie prompt is malicious compliance.

Let's start with the official EU government website's cookie prompt: https://european-union.europa.eu/index_en

Re: White House Considers Vetting A.I. Models Before They Are Released

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Post by aurareturn »

2ndorderthought wrote: post #82
2ndorderthought wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They aren't spending money like we are. They've been able to do what they have with an embargo on Nvidia cards even. I think we will see model size shrink more and more and become more efficient. Ideally to the point where they run on high end computers and not data centers. That's the future in my opinion. At that point you could run them on your phone or chrome book for free or with ads like Google search. Or pay f…

Aurareturn. I don't think they care. Geopolitically China stands to gain a lot by commoditizing it's complement. They don't need a booming insanely profitable ai industry. They are not trillions of dollars leveraged in. I think for them the applications matter more. And they can do just fine with the us scrambling for a few decades. They don't think short term the way the us does. Neither do most countries. They also…

China !== Chinese LLM labs.

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Post by reaperducer »

ofrzeta wrote: post #61
aurareturn wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You just perfectly highlighted why over-regulation in tech is troublesome. This is why I've always been against European tech regulations which gave us the cookie prompt. Politicians shouldn't be product designers. Edit: I'll take the downvotes. Every time I say this, I get downvoted. Weirdly, even EU politicians are beginning to see that they've over regulated their tech industry so much that it can't compete but HN…

The regulations also gave us "USB-C everywhere" and the possibility to use a different map app than Apple maps on iOS. More to come.

and the possibility to use a different map app than Apple maps on iOS

iPhones have had Google Maps since day one. No regulation or EU needed.

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Post by blurbleblurble »

dragonwriter wrote: post #9
cozzyd wrote: post #7

They will have to "correctly" answer who is the best president, is the straight of Hormuz blocked, and how tall should the ballroom be.

More to the point, the vendor will have to make the correct deals with and contributions to firms and foundations owned and operated by the President’s friends and family members.

Why not all that and more?

Re: White House Considers Vetting A.I. Models Before They Are Released

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Post by 2ndorderthought »

aurareturn wrote: post #84
2ndorderthought wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aurareturn. I don't think they care. Geopolitically China stands to gain a lot by commoditizing it's complement. They don't need a booming insanely profitable ai industry. They are not trillions of dollars leveraged in. I think for them the applications matter more. And they can do just fine with the us scrambling for a few decades. They don't think short term the way the us does. Neither do most countries. They also…

China !== Chinese LLM labs.

Sure but those are still profitable enough without trying to take over the world. Even with free models. Not every new idea is worth 20 trillion dollars. I think most small companies are happy to take home a few billion.
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