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Over 8M Thermos jars and bottles recalled after 3 people lost vision

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Re: Over 8M Thermos jars and bottles recalled after 3 people lost vision

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Post by perarneng »

x______________ wrote: post #2

Initially assumed it was due to some sort of contamination or production defect. Turns out people leave perishable and fermenting foods in the thermos, and after a while when opened, the pressure lifts the lid of the thermos at quasi-unimaginable speeds, striking the curiously unsuspecting humans straight in the face, with some instances causing permanent damage to vision. Coffee is hot, but a pressure release system…

> Turns out people leave

I assume people forget they had food in them

Re: Over 8M Thermos jars and bottles recalled after 3 people lost vision

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Post by EDM115 »

x______________ wrote: post #2

Initially assumed it was due to some sort of contamination or production defect. Turns out people leave perishable and fermenting foods in the thermos, and after a while when opened, the pressure lifts the lid of the thermos at quasi-unimaginable speeds, striking the curiously unsuspecting humans straight in the face, with some instances causing permanent damage to vision. Coffee is hot, but a pressure release system…

it's literally written on my thermos instructions to NOT put any carbonated drinks inside for this exact reason lol

Re: Over 8M Thermos jars and bottles recalled after 3 people lost vision

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Post by ziml77 »

odie5533 wrote: post #44
nirava wrote: post #40

Any (sealed) container designed to hold hot things should have a pressure release system. It can be seals that buckle before the lid. It can be a tiny hole with a soft rubber stopper. It can be one of many things that cost a couple of cents extra and a bit more engineering and testing effort. The cheapest disposable coffee cups I've used have a tiny hole for the express purpose of not pressurizing and spilling hot li…

My steam cleaner recently was recalled and sent me a new cap with a built-in pressure-locking valve. People were opening it too early and getting burns. Heat and pressure can be very dangerous.

Wow I'm amazed that they shipped it without that. That's a standard safety feature as far as I know.

Re: Over 8M Thermos jars and bottles recalled after 3 people lost vision

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Post by triceratops »

iammjm wrote: post #22
x______________ wrote: post #2

Initially assumed it was due to some sort of contamination or production defect. Turns out people leave perishable and fermenting foods in the thermos, and after a while when opened, the pressure lifts the lid of the thermos at quasi-unimaginable speeds, striking the curiously unsuspecting humans straight in the face, with some instances causing permanent damage to vision. Coffee is hot, but a pressure release system…

Isn't the point of a thermos to put "perishable and fermenting foods" in it, like coffee or tea? Like this could totally have been me, like make a thermos-full of coffee one day, then forget about it only to come back to in some weeks just to open it and have one of my eyes blown off

You ferment coffee? Tea I can understand if you're making kombucha, but coffee?

Re: Over 8M Thermos jars and bottles recalled after 3 people lost vision

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Post by iammjm »

triceratops wrote: post #84
iammjm wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the point of a thermos to put "perishable and fermenting foods" in it, like coffee or tea? Like this could totally have been me, like make a thermos-full of coffee one day, then forget about it only to come back to in some weeks just to open it and have one of my eyes blown off

You ferment coffee? Tea I can understand if you're making kombucha, but coffee?

not on purpose, I just forget stuff until they rot

Re: Over 8M Thermos jars and bottles recalled after 3 people lost vision

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Post by triceratops »

iammjm wrote: post #85
triceratops wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You ferment coffee? Tea I can understand if you're making kombucha, but coffee?

not on purpose, I just forget stuff until they rot

Lol. If I forget food in a container and expect that it's rotted, I'm holding it well away from my face when I open it.

Re: Over 8M Thermos jars and bottles recalled after 3 people lost vision

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Post by Litost »

malfist wrote: post #75
baq wrote: post #42

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> I wonder what about the design makes it a rocket compared to what I would assume is a pretty standard design? Injuries nonwithstanding, the quality of the seal means it was an exceptionally well designed item for the purpose of storing 99% water. side note: there's a reason you get a visit from the FBI if you buy ten pressure cookers (e.g. if you find a great Black Friday deal and have a large family and plan Chris…

Find me a news story about a person who got a visit from the FBI after buying 10 pressure cookers. That beggars the imagination. You think the FBI is monitoring the sales of every restaurant supply store?

Here's a story in the Guardian about a women who was visited by local police in New York after her family searched for pressure cookers and backpacks.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/01/new-york-polic...

Though it turns out the truth might be more complicated and it may have been her husbands employer triggering the search, not the FBI? https://www.darkreading.com/cyber-risk/pressure-cooker-flap-...

Re: Over 8M Thermos jars and bottles recalled after 3 people lost vision

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Post by malfist »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #80
malfist wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats all? What happens if the jar is turned upside down in this case? What if something is set on the lid? What if the jar is with someone heading to a camp site in a 4 wheeler and it is vibrated a lot?

You have a section of threads that seal or have a gasket. This is simpler than a relief valve that can leak or collect bacteria.

The cap is rigid. Either the threads constrain movement or they don't. A section of threads that allow for movement would still find the overall system constrained by other threading.

Re: Over 8M Thermos jars and bottles recalled after 3 people lost vision

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Post by lioeters »

christophilus wrote: post #71
2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #46

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The pressure build up can be quite a lot from fermentation. I’ve accidentally fermented drinks in glass swing top bottles. And upon attempting to open the bottle the pressure ripped the stopper and the metal parts right off the bottle at high speed. If you were purposely fermenting something, you could build enough pressure to pop the bottle.

Yep. I once had half a bottle of kefir end up all over my kitchen ceiling. After that, I always opened them outside, pointing away from anyone.

> half a bottle of kefir

I also found this the hard way, once you open a bottle of kefir or yogurt and then close it again to drink/eat later, the fermentation process speeds up due to the additional oxygen, building up pressure until you open it the next time. Fortunately no one got hurt.

Re: Over 8M Thermos jars and bottles recalled after 3 people lost vision

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Post by sebastiennight »

edwcross wrote: post #50
roel_v wrote: post #39

That sucks. I have both and the ones with the pressure relieve valve are a pain in the ass to clean. You have to pull out the rubber inner thingy, you can't get a towel inside the hole that thingy goes into, and in general the rubber thing gets lost easily. I wish Thermos would send me a few of those 8 million stoppers, I'll promise I won't be a dumbass with them :(

> I promise I won't be a dumbass with them That's not very empathic of fellow people who might just have mistakenly forgotten food in the container. It's not like they were intentionally using this for brewing some illegal substance or misusing it in a way specifically forbidden in the manual or obviously unsafe (e.g. removing a magnetron and all of its protections from a microwave to make pretty wood carvings).

> removing a magnetron and all of its protections from a microwave to make pretty wood carvings

In case anybody's wondering, as I did:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/11/60/41/116041120bb6e701bd47...

If you ask me, that's how the protomolecule got out

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