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Re: NetHack 5.0.0

#81
post #4

I can highly recommend the 3D client especially because it works almost everywhere, hope it will be updated for 5.0.0 soon https://github.com/JamesIV4/nethack-3d Web https://jamesiv4.github.io/nethack-3d/

> https://github.com/JamesIV4/nethack-3d

Giving me Ultima VII / VIII vibes.

Re: NetHack 5.0.0

#82
post #37
post #32

In the early days of NetHack, spoilers were not so widely known (the web didn't exist yet) and save scumming was more difficult* (few people had admin access on systems that could run it) compared to now. I wonder how many players today will resist those temptations now that they're not only trivial to discover and execute, but also widely accepted in gaming culture. I urge new players to resist spoilers and cheats f…

Nethack runs as a setgid process that hides save files from users. Kind of old fashioned now that almost every Unix system is a single user system. There are still public servers for those that want the temptation to be taken away from them. As to spoilers... Everybody reads the spoilers. I doubt anyone has ever ascended spoiler-free.

[Possible obscure spoiler]

A friend once showed me a post on rec.games.roguelike.nethack where someone was finally begging for a hint because they'd gone deep in the dungeon and couldn't figure out anything to do next. They couldn't find any staircases down, though they had found a weird vibrating square, and none of the many weird items they'd collected seemed to do anything to help.

Re: NetHack 5.0.0

#83
post #40

Seems each NetHack release it gets harder and harder :) But I since we are in May I would guess it will be part of junethack: https://junethack.net/ I cannot get into hardfought.org right now, but nethack.alt seems to be available. I can see alt.org is using nethack 3.6.7 looking forward to giving v5 a try.

> NOTICE: Starting March 7th, 2026 at 3pm UTC, players accessing the hdf-us server via SSH must connect to us.hardfought.org instead of just hardfought.org (ssh nethack@us.hardfought.org). Please update your configurations accordingly.

There was some bot DOS attack on hardfought, so they had to get behind cloudflare IIRC but that made having the same domain for somehow problematic.

And yes, it will be part of Junethack. 3.7 already was so it's actually just changing version numbers. :)

Re: NetHack 5.0.0

#84
Great! An excuse to play again.

My favourite way to play it is using `ssh nethack@nethack.alt.org`. Don't even have to install it. Though it seems it hasn't received this update yet.

Re: NetHack 5.0.0

#85
post #4

I can highly recommend the 3D client especially because it works almost everywhere, hope it will be updated for 5.0.0 soon https://github.com/JamesIV4/nethack-3d Web https://jamesiv4.github.io/nethack-3d/

Thanks for sharing this. I think this might be what gets me to finally give Nethack a fair shake.

Re: NetHack 5.0.0

#86
post #59

I've been playing on and off for 15 years, sometimes daily for months on end. The deepest I managed to go is level 11, and as soon as I enter the Big Room, I die. In fact, I went past level 8 for the first time this year. I've read all of the NetHack wiki back and forth. I don't have the slightest idea what I'm doing wrong or how to improve. I'm 46 now, and if I continue that pace, I'll be dead before I even reach th…

Been pkaying on and off since I was 12, 38 today.. Good times. Quick tip is to play valkyrie, dip sword for excalibur, rub any lamps and wish for sdsm, and you should be good. Also check out DCSS, amazing game, been playing for soon 40 years.

I think I got my hands on Hack when I was 8, so I've been doing the same for, uh, 39 years. Damn. At least I was learning VI keys unintentionally, so it was somewhat educational. :)

Re: NetHack 5.0.0

#87
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

** SPOILER ABOVE ** Would you please edit your comment, and preface it with a spoiler warning?

Nethack has been around since 1987, it's a little late for spoilers.

People still play this game. Spoilers still spoil experiences for others.

Re: NetHack 5.0.0

#88
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or do what I did when I played this as a child: read the spoilers. Then start with Valkyrie, get the Mjollnir, wand of wishing, and a dragon scale mail as fast as possible. And a bag of holding and you get pretty far. It's a fantastic game if you have a bit of imagination. The possibilities are endless and it's so rewarding to ascend finally.

I've always heard that one of the enjoyable experiences of Nethack was figuring things out for yourself, so I've never read spoilers. I'd like to know what others think.

> I've always heard that one of the enjoyable experiences of Nethack was figuring things out for yourself

Ehhh. I guess "enjoyable" from a masochism perspective? Nethack has a lot of very specific mechanics and hazards that aren't explained to you.

If you're just looking to explore, then by all means dive in. But if you're trying to finish the game (or even just, make something resembling meaningful progress towards doing so), you realistically probably never will without either reading guides or putting in thousands of hours wandering and dying.

To put it in perspective - many people have played the game with guides for years without ever beating it.

Re: NetHack 5.0.0

#89
Glad to hear it received a major update. Nethack on Slackware Linux was my childhood and has a special place in me. It taught me how to really use computers. Time to compile the source code again, folks.

Re: NetHack 5.0.0

#90
post #84

Great! An excuse to play again. My favourite way to play it is using `ssh nethack@nethack.alt.org`. Don't even have to install it. Though it seems it hasn't received this update yet.

ssh nethack@us.hardfought.org

It has been updated, and there are also eu/au region servers.

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