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Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by sagacity »

I recently got locked out of my machine because logging in with the mandatory Microsoft account-backed primary user of my machine didn't work anymore. It said I was offline and I had to use the "previous password" even though I didn't have a previous password for that account.

Hacking around in the recovery console to add another administrator user worked, but then I couldn't reset the original user's password because it was tied to the Microsoft account and you can't change the password locally.

I don't need Copilot managing my inbox through AI, nor do I need a more exciting widget experience.

I just want an OS where if something like the above happens there's a way to fix it without having to reinstall. It doesn't seem like much to ask.

Edit: yes, I can use Linux but I have decades of Windows muscle memory and I do a bunch of DirectX programming. I shouldn't have to switch :)

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by redeeman »

snerc wrote: post #78
cwillu wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Linux” needs to do nothing of the sort. People who want to save their work by moving to a platform without those issues need to be willing to either do the work or pay for it.

I've never read a more archpilled comment

"i hate how the current system is, i see some other guys have something that doesnt have these issues, what the other system needs to do is make their system exactly like my current, so that I dont need to spend ANY effort myself"

few moments later

"i hate how the current system is"

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

#83

Post by Someone »

PeterStuer wrote: post #40

What people realy want: as little OS as possible to let them run just the things on their computer they want to run. What Microsoft wants: Windows as their straightjacket into the Microsoft services as that is where the revenue is. Why Windows got this bad: incentives and coercion placed on the teams to show uptake on the services no matter what leading to perversion in tactics and complete alienation of the user bas…

> What people realy want: as little OS as possible to let them run just the things on their computer they want to run.

Citation needed. “As little OS as possible” would mean not having a standard clipboard, not having a standard way to install fonts, etc.

Even interpreting that as “all the functionality, but limit applications to utilities for managing the hardware”, I think there people who want that, but I doubt that’s what people, in general, want. Having to choose (and, likely, pay for) a photo manager, a simple word processor, etc. is just too much of a hassle for many.

Also, why would any commercial entity develop such an OS? The margin is in the

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

#85

Post by redeeman »

Telaneo wrote: post #73
hackrmn wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like your sentiment mirrors my thoughts exactly on this. Since this isn't the Reddit comment section (I hear people here prefer a bit more elaboration and argumentative nuance with their $BEVERAGE), I feel compelled to add some of my own personal experience. I don't think Windows can be fixed anymore. I think the choices Microsoft have been doing for _decades_ now, with only the _mechanisms_ coming and going,…

> I don't think Windows can be fixed anymore. I think the choices Microsoft have been doing for _decades_ now, with only the _mechanisms_ coming and going, have become endemic to Windows, a part of its identity. I'm not so sure that Windows is unfixable. It could probably be fixed, but doing that would require rebuilding every burned bridge back to its old standard, and probably then some, and that's something the re…

someone tries to scam, steal, beat you up. they then make efforts to stop doing that, and their trust would rise skyhigh? what does someone have to do to earn that kind of loyalty? would you apply this to anything else?

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by globalnode »

teekert wrote: post #66
wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #63

The Windows we want: The SAME as Windows 2000 in terms of what is installed. NO TPM REQUIREMENT. Even better: when installing Windows, there should be a "install minimal" option, and if you select it then it should be so fucking minimal - so little on there, that all you get is control panel and a way to install new software - NOTHING more. That's your win, Microsoft. I'm 2000% certain nothing even slightly close to…

Yeah it’s funny how at this moment I’d pay more for less Windows. But I’ve found my way on Linux long ago. Sure not all software is there and MS365 fully from browser has so many annoyances, but I love the OS minimalism, how clean it is. My ideal windows in indeed win2000, but in a transparent VM so I can just do the Windows apps. I need LSW, Linux subsystem for Windows, essentially. I live in Linux but still have so…

its worth trying really really hard to get windows apps running through wine before reaching for a vm imho. once you open a vm you have to deal with ... well... windows.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by cindyllm »

redeeman wrote: post #85
Telaneo wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't think Windows can be fixed anymore. I think the choices Microsoft have been doing for _decades_ now, with only the _mechanisms_ coming and going, have become endemic to Windows, a part of its identity. I'm not so sure that Windows is unfixable. It could probably be fixed, but doing that would require rebuilding every burned bridge back to its old standard, and probably then some, and that's something the re…

someone tries to scam, steal, beat you up. they then make efforts to stop doing that, and their trust would rise skyhigh? what does someone have to do to earn that kind of loyalty? would you apply this to anything else?

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Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by [deleted] »

Someone wrote: post #83
PeterStuer wrote: post #40

What people realy want: as little OS as possible to let them run just the things on their computer they want to run. What Microsoft wants: Windows as their straightjacket into the Microsoft services as that is where the revenue is. Why Windows got this bad: incentives and coercion placed on the teams to show uptake on the services no matter what leading to perversion in tactics and complete alienation of the user bas…

> What people realy want: as little OS as possible to let them run just the things on their computer they want to run. Citation needed. “As little OS as possible” would mean not having a standard clipboard, not having a standard way to install fonts, etc. Even interpreting that as “all the functionality, but limit applications to utilities for managing the hardware”, I think there people who want that, but I doubt th…

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Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

#90

Post by globalnode »

Accacin wrote: post #50
jofzar wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except I can't because of the games I play?

This is a choice for you! I'm a pretty heavy PC gamer and whilst I've run Linux since I was in college (UK college, not US) I've always had a Windows install for gaming. A few years ago, I finally decided I'd had it with Windows and their crap and uninstalled it. If I game doesn't run on Linux, I don't play it. Simple as that. I'm lucky in that a majority of games I play run fine on Linux, the only real game I'd love…

>If I game doesn't run on Linux, I don't play it. Simple as that.

yes ive reached that point too.

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