Codex has been infuriating me by demanding I sign up for the cyber program if I want to continue, when I'm not even asking security questions.
After dissing Anthropic for limiting Mythos, OpenAI restricts access to Cyber
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Re: After dissing Anthropic for limiting Mythos, OpenAI restricts access to Cyber
#82Always read the fine print of your all inclusive resort.
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Slowly? They realised that and ousted him in 2023. I'm not sure if you didn't know or just forgot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Removal_of_Sam_Altman_from_Ope...
They is doing a lot of work in your sentence. Almost the entire employee population signed a public letter of support with names attached in the middle of the drama. More accurate to say the board I think.
The creepy one where they all simultaneously posted the same mantra to Twitter like a cult gathering? Yeah that definitely reassured me of Altman's leadership and good intentions.
Re: After dissing Anthropic for limiting Mythos, OpenAI restricts access to Cyber
#84"my model is the most dangerous" "No mine is the most dangerous" "Nuh uh mine is" "Mine could kill everyone!" "Mine could do it faster!" "Prove it!!!" This is where we are
Yup, we are somewhere between "my model can beat up your model" and "you wouldn't know my model, it lives in Canada".
This is the world we live in.
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#85"my model is the most dangerous" "No mine is the most dangerous" "Nuh uh mine is" "Mine could kill everyone!" "Mine could do it faster!" "Prove it!!!" This is where we are
Can't wait for the Chinese models to completely wipe the floor with them in 6 months.
I doubt it. By not releasing it, Chinese companies will be unable to break TOS and use it to acquire high quality training data...which, I suspect, is how they've kept pace
Re: After dissing Anthropic for limiting Mythos, OpenAI restricts access to Cyber
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Idk about Altman, I missed that he’s a bad guy now apparently, but people also still listen to certain politicians that routinely lie every day and don’t even bother to make the lies fit the other ones they said before, so..
Has there been a single positive post about Altman?
The funny thing is that a lot of Altman's reputation has come from other VCs and Valley-types taking about him in a way they consider positive. Every quote about Altman from another VC is like, "Altman, what a great leader. He's absolutely ruthless, he'll do anything to win: lie, cheat, steal, kill. He has what it takes to succeed in this business."
They say this because in their circles it's a compliment, and nobody ever stopped to consider how the general public might react to it, especially if you claim you'll shortly be the one in charge of world-reshaping technology.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
> demonstrably I'm not entirely up to date on each week's LLM hype train/scandal but last I heard there was no public access to it or public-trusted 3rd parties that can review model's capabilities
You are up to date. Mythos had unauthorized access because of poor security but that's it as far as I know. Not exactly a good sign for something being advertised as a weapon...
You'd think if Mythos was so good at finding security issues they could point it at their own setup for it and have found those issues easily...
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
We have been getting increasingly hit by this. We do defense, not offense, and AI refusals to run defense prompts has been going noticeably up. Historically, tasks used to only get randomly rejected when we were doing disaster management AI, so this is a surprise shift in refusals to function reliably for basic IT. Related, they outsourced the TAP verification to a terrible vendor, and their internal support process…
They are selling an impossible product. If you make an LLM more safe, you are going to shift the weight for defensive actions as well. There’s no physical way to assign weights to have one and not the other.
> If you make an LLM more safe, you are going to shift the weight for defensive actions as well.
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> There’s no physical way to assign weights to have one and not the other.
Do you think a human is capable of providing assistance with defense but not offense, over a textual communication channel with another human?
If no, how does a cybersec firm train its employees?
If yes, how can you make the bold claim that it's possible for a human to differentiate between the two cases using incoming text as their basis for judgement, but IMpossible for an LLM to be configured to do the same? Note that if some hypothetical completely-determinstic LLM that always rejects "attack" requests and accepts "defense" ones can exist, the claim it's impossible is false. Providing nondeterministic output for a given input is not a hard requirement for language models.
Re: After dissing Anthropic for limiting Mythos, OpenAI restricts access to Cyber
#89"my model is the most dangerous" "No mine is the most dangerous" "Nuh uh mine is" "Mine could kill everyone!" "Mine could do it faster!" "Prove it!!!" This is where we are
I am convinced the models are not as good as they say, but everyone benefits from the continued AI hype, so nobody says so.
Re: After dissing Anthropic for limiting Mythos, OpenAI restricts access to Cyber
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Idk about Altman, I missed that he’s a bad guy now apparently, but people also still listen to certain politicians that routinely lie every day and don’t even bother to make the lies fit the other ones they said before, so..
Has there been a single positive post about Altman?
I don't know, but I also think people are easy to jump into popular rhetorics about internet personalities in the tech space without due diligence. It used to not be such a problem on hn but it seems like its bled here too. Sam Altman might be a bad guy, might be good, but after everyone misrepresented the military contract argument its tough for me to buy into the hate.